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[Darmokk]

No need to wait for weeks.  It's really not that impressive.

[The MMO Troll]

Darmokk, on 14 June 2012 - 18:19, said:

No need to wait for weeks.  It's really not that impressive.

Wow. Looks like Steam provided a big, one week jump, and now that is rapidly trailing off.

I, for one, am shocked. Shocked, I say!

[Darmokk]

Even steam running out of steam.

[cossieuk]

Going to be interesting in the next few months.  WoW have announced the release data for the Mists of Pandaria, 25th September.  So with GW2 out just before RoR and MoP a few weeks later the population figures for September will be very interesting indeed

[Ardraug]

Would you stay, as a newcomer, on an MMO that lags like LOTRO does? Specially a MAJOR one?

Hell, take Ryzom... badly underfunded so i forgive the bit of lag it has and it's nowhere near as bad as lotro..

WoW had this kind of lag issue it'd be on friggin CNN, kind of a pity LOTRO is too poorly handled to stand up to those numbers considering the IP.

[The MMO Troll]

cossieuk, on 25 July 2012 - 17:59, said:

Going to be interesting in the next few months.  WoW have announced the release data for the Mists of Pandaria, 25th September.  So with GW2 out just before RoR and MoP a few weeks later the population figures for September will be very interesting indeed

I agree. If you add in Rift's "Storm Legion" expansion coming out most likely in October or November, September may not just be a rough month for LOTRO...

While RoR is launching on Sept. 5th (IIRC), many people will still be playing GW2 hard and heavy at that time, leaving only the most hardcore LOTRO fans playing RoR at launch. Then just a few weeks later, the Big Kahuna "World of Warcraft" launches their next expansion, which I doubt will really have the pull Blizzard is hoping it will have, but it will distract from other games at least for a month or so, as usual. I think this means, while Turbine may have sold a lot of pre-orders for RoR, I bet the number of people actively playing the game when it launches will stay even or decline. And with SL following sometime in October or November, that will not allow Turbine to really build any buzz for RoR in the face of such competition.

It just doesn't look good for Turbine, at this point.

Also, look at the price-points for "Mists of Pandaria". For the basic expansion you pay $40, and get significantly more than you get from RoR. They have a digital deluxe edition with more bells & whistles for $60, and an $80 retail-only boxed collector's edition. One might say the MoP digital deluxe edition is comparable to the Deluxe ($50) version of RoR, and that the Collector's edition is comparable to the Legendary ($70) version of RoR, meaning those two versions of RoR are cheaper. I disagree. Turbine isn't offering a boxed Collector's edition of RoR, so really there is no comparison between the Legendary edition and MoP's collector's edition. If anything, the MoP Digital Deluxe edition is similar to RoR's Legendary edition (rather than the RoR Deluxe edition), and it $10 cheaper.

I expect Rift to have similar pricing for "Storm Legion" as Blizzard has for MoP, meaning Turbine's latest offering is still more expensive and doesn't offer nearly what MoP and SL have.

All in all, this is all bad news for Turbine.

[Raedwulf]

Ardraug, on 25 July 2012 - 18:02, said:

Would you stay, as a newcomer, on an MMO that lags like LOTRO does? Specially a MAJOR one?

Does it still count as major?

[Ardraug]

Raedwulf, on 25 July 2012 - 21:26, said:

Does it still count as major?

Should.... should.... it IS Tolkien .. movies made it even more known..

should.......

[Raedwulf]

The MMO Troll, on 25 July 2012 - 19:07, said:

While RoR is launching on Sept. 5th (IIRC), many people will still be playing GW2 hard and heavy at that time, leaving only the most hardcore LOTRO fans playing RoR at launch. Then just a few weeks later, the Big Kahuna "World of Warcraft" launches their next expansion, which I doubt will really have the pull Blizzard is hoping it will have...

Not entirely in agreement with "only hardcore". There's plenty of people for whom either GW2 has no interest, or who don't have the time to invest in two games, so they're not keen on starting from scratch in a new one when there's an expansion coming out for the one they know. That doesn't necessarily make them "hardcore".

Similarly, not in agreement about the effect WoW might have. They're very different games in look & feel, and I've never got the impression there's much crossover in the population.

Ardraug, on 25 July 2012 - 21:29, said:

Should.... should.... it IS Tolkien .. movies made it even more known..

should.......

Ah, well! "Should" and "is"...

[LordVorontur]

To be perfectly honest, I've no interest in GW2. I've enough trouble with procrastination, I don't need anything else added
(apart from Rocksmith when it hits EU in october)
Heck, I've not even played D3 since before I went to the Download Festival.
I've only logged in once or twice on SWTOR since coming back.

[JRonnie]

Hmmm, this will be the first time I won't be buying a WoW expansion (quit for the final time a few months after Cata released).

That being said, I'll be well and truly invested in GW2 when RoR launches, so I doubt I'll get to check out the vaunted mounted combat for at least a few months (might as well put my lifetime sub to some use I guess).

[Thrabath]

I'm in the situation I don't have much time to play (4-8 hours a week) and have a Lifetime membership in Lotro, so I won't switch for another game, since I invested a lot of time; But I don't think I'm the type of player Turbine wants to keep staying active