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[Ric]

So we were in a total informal chat in glff in Elendilmir... People started to tease Alek for claiming to be a super champ with the axe from the moors.

I told him to check the new crafted axe. He said "Yeah the axe is better."

I said in glff "No s hit". After realizing that it may be too much to take, I immediately wrote "No kidding I meant "

My account is being suspended for 3 days. Lol.

What is this game coming to? Ridiculous.

PS: I never ever got suspended or my account banned. Ever. In any game. I still can't believe it. I appealed the suspension with a ticket. Let's see. lol

[AgamemnonV1]

Welcome to the wonderful world of being excluded from any future testing Turbine does.

At one point you were also barred from accessing "premium services" as well if you had a game account ban. I had to fight tooth and nail for a server transfer. They're usually good about overlooking it if you admit what you did was wrong. But honestly, my temp account ban was five years ago. I forever have a black mark in Turbine's books.

But yeah, I think everyone knows these days that GLFF is monitored by a GM. Just laying in wait to jump on someone who curses (even in jest, as you did). I've heard some people have even been temp banned from saying things in kinchat.

[Darmokk]

Naughty yous

[minimorgoth]

That one time I asked global which race of middle-earth had the biggest dongs - a valid topic of discussion for a RP server imo.

Unfortunately, some people were not amused and saw fit to report me. Was only worth a warning though.

[Doro]

I was once banned for 3 days for saying 'panda rape' in globallff.

I was later banned for a week for saying 'i'm fed up with these motherf***ing burgs in this motherf***ing 'moors!' (censoring included).

Yet I once said 'i swear i'm going to skullf*** you one of these days' (without the censoring) and just got a warning.

However they operate, I've yet to work it out.

[Brrokk]

Duh, they just don't like swearing because LOTRO is intended to be a family-friendly environment. But sometimes you get away with it when no-one notices or reports. Why is that hard to understand? Solution: don't use bad words.

[Toe]

Enforcing CoC is about the only thing that GMs do.  If they don't ban people every single instance of a swear word then there's no longer a need for them and they're out of a job.

[AgamemnonV1]

Brrokk, on 04 April 2012 - 13:49, said:

Duh, they just don't like swearing because LOTRO is intended to be a family-friendly environment. But sometimes you get away with it when no-one notices or reports. Why is that hard to understand? Solution: don't use bad words.

Since when is gore, the use (and abuse) of alcohol, and war a family-friendly environment?

[Toe]

AgamemnonV1, on 04 April 2012 - 16:32, said:

Since when is gore, the use (and abuse) of alcohol, and war a family-friendly environment?

ESRB TEEN
Titles rated T (Teen) have content that may be suitable for ages 13 and older. Titles in this category may contain violence, suggestive themes, crude humor, minimal blood, simulated gambling, and/or infrequent use of strong language.

They're so dumb.  Plus there's the whole profanity filter thing which is turned on by default.

[cossieuk]

Toe, on 04 April 2012 - 18:57, said:

ESRB TEEN
Titles rated T (Teen) have content that may be suitable for ages 13 and older. Titles in this category may contain violence, suggestive themes, crude humor, minimal blood, simulated gambling, and/or infrequent use of strong language.

They're so dumb.  Plus there's the whole profanity filter thing which is turned on by default.

You agree to not swear by accepting the T&C when you first run the game.  Doesnt matter that there is a filter, Turbine set the rules and you have to follow them if you want to keep playing.

[Spidey]

First offense you should have gotten a warning. My first offense was for telling a 50 in Trollshaws OOC to F himself after he took my dwarf iron node while I was fighting a bear at lvl 35 and I only recieved a warning.

I have gotten temp bans for something I said in tribechat that was then overturned on appeal, they gave me 400TP's since it was after my 3 day ban when it was resolved.

I was also accepted for SoM's beta test after a temp ban so it seems its all subjective.

[cossieuk]

Spidey, on 04 April 2012 - 19:37, said:

I was also accepted for SoM's beta test after a temp ban so it seems its all subjective.

And there lies the problem, not the rules but the way they are sometimes implemented and sometimes not

[Toe]

cossieuk, on 04 April 2012 - 19:33, said:

You agree to not swear by accepting the T&C when you first run the game.  Doesnt matter that there is a filter, Turbine set the rules and you have to follow them if you want to keep playing.

Oh, I understand the policy and even follow it; I'm just saying that the policy is stupid.  They have a Teen rating, they could allow minor swearing if they wanted and there's no need to ban people over a slip up or first time offense.

[Dalthalion]

That would open it up to a lot of "first time" offenses.  To me, it's better to have a rule that is enforced with equity than one that is enforced sporadically.

In-game, it's better to use the thousands of words that exist to describe things and are not against the code-of-conduct.  For example, someone lurking in GLFF can choose to be petty and report the first person to call someone else a d***, but that same lurker can't get a GM to act at all against a response like "What you said isn't reasonable," or "Your claim doesn't match reality," or "Your playstyle isn't one I see too often in successful raids," or even "It sounds like your trolling."  No cuss words, but the point gets through, and GM's can't do a thing about it.

[Brrokk]

Toe, on 04 April 2012 - 20:29, said:

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they could allow minor swearing if they wanted
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But they don't. Like I said, sometimes you can get away with it, other times you'll get noticed. Simple solution: don't use bad language.

In LOTR, even Gimli doesn't swear. Not even when Legolas beats him by one orc.

[The Bohunk]

AgamemnonV1, on 04 April 2012 - 02:17, said:

I've heard some people have even been temp banned from saying things in kinchat.

Wow. If this was a regular thing, my entire kin would be perma-banned.
No question.  

I don't understand the hard-line on profanity when chat has a built-in filter.
If parents are so worried about their kids being exposed to adult behavior, they shouldn't let them play an MMO unsupervised. Chat filter on, see no evil.

[Dalthalion]

Oh, they'll ban you even for things said in voice chat between two friends in a fellowship.  This actually happened once, during the SoA run.  They commented in a bawdy way about another player, even though she was not privy to the convo, and ended up getting a temp ban.

So, whether OOC chat, trade chat, GLFF, voice chat, or kin chat, you are subject to monitoring.

[The Bohunk]

Dalthalion, on 05 April 2012 - 16:15, said:

Oh, they'll ban you even for things said in voice chat between two friends in a fellowship.  This actually happened once, during the SoA run.  They commented in a bawdy way about another player, even though she was not privy to the convo, and ended up getting a temp ban.

So, whether OOC chat, trade chat, GLFF, voice chat, or kin chat, you are subject to monitoring.

Awesome use of resources, that. Glad I never use in-game voice.
Of course, it will take them 20 minutes-plus to respond to an in-game help ticket but they'll get all Homeland Security on certain people just for kicks?

[Toe]

I've got a quote in my bio that +Dust once posted in Brandywine GLFF.

"In theory you could make a private channel, swear, report yourself, and get a ban.  I wouldn't recommend it though."

[AgamemnonV1]

The Bohunk, on 05 April 2012 - 16:29, said:

Awesome use of resources, that. Glad I never use in-game voice.
Of course, it will take them 20 minutes-plus to respond to an in-game help ticket but they'll get all Homeland Security on certain people just for kicks?

I've always said the only thing the GMs have ever been good at is temp banning people for swearing. It's like what happens when a Disney mascot removes his head gear in the middle of a crowd.