I know if I were a player who had never or very little used the forums for anything and then suddenly had an issue come up where I felt the forums might suffice and went there and was treated like that OP with the high "miss" results when fighting...I might not feel the community were helpful. And if it seemed like that type of response was encouraged or tolerated, it might be a strong enough reason to not play the game any longer. Especially if I looked elsewhere in the forums and seen threads closed due to it being negativeness about 'the store' or whatever else people are being negative about.
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Posted 13 April 2012 - 00:18
Knowfere, on 12 April 2012 - 23:48, said:
I know if I were a player who had never or very little used the forums for anything and then suddenly had an issue come up where I felt the forums might suffice and went there and was treated like that OP with the high "miss" results when fighting...I might not feel the community were helpful. And if it seemed like that type of response was encouraged or tolerated, it might be a strong enough reason to not play the game any longer. Especially if I looked elsewhere in the forums and seen threads closed due to it being negativeness about 'the store' or whatever else people are being negative about.
It's likely, but have you considered the possibility that ...
"Getting a chuckle out of reading unofficial forums. Don't confuse us with facts, we have conspiracies to promote! :)" - Sapience (@rickheaton), in full denial
"If someone who always supports a position is a shill , does that mean someone who refutes it constantly is a shill for the opposition?" - Sapience (@rickheaton), a shill
"Pssst, people who think they're being sooper sekret.... I see you! :)" - Sapience (@rickheaton), waxing paranoid
"Hate to ruin a perfectly good conspiracy theory, but I never worked on Hellgate. Sorry folks." - Sapience (@rickheaton), former associate of Ping0
"One last thing I'd like to mention is that there seem to be some former members of the community who have decided to add to the concerns and issues surrounding the transition by misrepresenting some facts. Primarily, banning is almost always a last resort. It usually takes a willful act (indeed a series of them) on the part of the party being removed from the community to get banned. Multiple warnings, infractions, and appeals are usually involved. Often times warnings are informal and sent via PM or a simple post asking those involved to change the subject, refrain from posting certain topics, etc." - Sapience, LOTRO Forum Topic Clarification Needed On Profanity Community Guideline
"I may never leave work. Tornados keep popping up between me and home." - Sapience (@rickheaton), with a poor understanding of justice
"... this *is* Sapience we're talking about, he's a big, mean....****Bzzzzzztttt****cli ck****Account Deleted...****" - Arbalister, Sapience's fanboy, in a moment of rare insight.
"It's not what you say, it's how you choose to say it." - Sapience, LOTRO CSM
"It is not what you say that matters, but the manner in which you say it ..." - William Carlos Williams, avowed socialist
Sapientis bardus est.
"If someone who always supports a position is a shill , does that mean someone who refutes it constantly is a shill for the opposition?" - Sapience (@rickheaton), a shill
"Pssst, people who think they're being sooper sekret.... I see you! :)" - Sapience (@rickheaton), waxing paranoid
"Hate to ruin a perfectly good conspiracy theory, but I never worked on Hellgate. Sorry folks." - Sapience (@rickheaton), former associate of Ping0
"One last thing I'd like to mention is that there seem to be some former members of the community who have decided to add to the concerns and issues surrounding the transition by misrepresenting some facts. Primarily, banning is almost always a last resort. It usually takes a willful act (indeed a series of them) on the part of the party being removed from the community to get banned. Multiple warnings, infractions, and appeals are usually involved. Often times warnings are informal and sent via PM or a simple post asking those involved to change the subject, refrain from posting certain topics, etc." - Sapience, LOTRO Forum Topic Clarification Needed On Profanity Community Guideline
"I may never leave work. Tornados keep popping up between me and home." - Sapience (@rickheaton), with a poor understanding of justice
"... this *is* Sapience we're talking about, he's a big, mean....****Bzzzzzztttt****cli ck****Account Deleted...****" - Arbalister, Sapience's fanboy, in a moment of rare insight.
"It's not what you say, it's how you choose to say it." - Sapience, LOTRO CSM
"It is not what you say that matters, but the manner in which you say it ..." - William Carlos Williams, avowed socialist
Sapientis bardus est.
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Posted 13 April 2012 - 08:46
The whole customer/developer relationship is dysfunctional anyway. We get the abuse, but keep paying, because they give us candy. Even when the candy tastes bad, we hope the next piece will taste better, or at least wipe the bad taste away. But do we ever decide that the candy isn't worth the abuse? For most people, it would seem no, it's not. Don't care if you get the treatment, as long as you can suck your lollipop.
[What an ugly picture]
[What an ugly picture]
How did buying a lifetime account become a free ride, and an example of not supporting Turbine? That money left my pocket and they took it. Free it was not.
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Here's another gem. People pay for VIP, ie, they pay sub fees, or purchased a whole bunch of sub fees in advance. So they most definitely paid for upgrades and maintenance, they aren't in any way shape or form free, contrary to what this log bump claims as 'no additional cost'. I'd go as far as to claim that they should have received the wallet 'fix' as a part of that VIP package anyway, and a la carte the premium and f2p accounts as they should. And didn't everyone get those areas anyway, only having to buy quests?
Does he ever think things through before he posts them?
Does he ever think things through before he posts them?
How did buying a lifetime account become a free ride, and an example of not supporting Turbine? That money left my pocket and they took it. Free it was not.
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Posted 15 April 2012 - 11:41
Jackalope, on 15 April 2012 - 08:03, said:
Here's another gem. People pay for VIP, ie, they pay sub fees, or purchased a whole bunch of sub fees in advance. So they most definitely paid for upgrades and maintenance, they aren't in any way shape or form free, contrary to what this log bump claims as 'no additional cost'. I'd go as far as to claim that they should have received the wallet 'fix' as a part of that VIP package anyway, and a la carte the premium and f2p accounts as they should. And didn't everyone get those areas anyway, only having to buy quests?
Does he ever think things through before he posts them?
Does he ever think things through before he posts them?
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Posted 15 April 2012 - 16:18
Lets not become obsessed with Lil' Ricky 
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Posted 15 April 2012 - 22:37
Made it a female character. Nice touch.
"Getting a chuckle out of reading unofficial forums. Don't confuse us with facts, we have conspiracies to promote! :)" - Sapience (@rickheaton), in full denial
"If someone who always supports a position is a shill , does that mean someone who refutes it constantly is a shill for the opposition?" - Sapience (@rickheaton), a shill
"Pssst, people who think they're being sooper sekret.... I see you! :)" - Sapience (@rickheaton), waxing paranoid
"Hate to ruin a perfectly good conspiracy theory, but I never worked on Hellgate. Sorry folks." - Sapience (@rickheaton), former associate of Ping0
"One last thing I'd like to mention is that there seem to be some former members of the community who have decided to add to the concerns and issues surrounding the transition by misrepresenting some facts. Primarily, banning is almost always a last resort. It usually takes a willful act (indeed a series of them) on the part of the party being removed from the community to get banned. Multiple warnings, infractions, and appeals are usually involved. Often times warnings are informal and sent via PM or a simple post asking those involved to change the subject, refrain from posting certain topics, etc." - Sapience, LOTRO Forum Topic Clarification Needed On Profanity Community Guideline
"I may never leave work. Tornados keep popping up between me and home." - Sapience (@rickheaton), with a poor understanding of justice
"... this *is* Sapience we're talking about, he's a big, mean....****Bzzzzzztttt****cli ck****Account Deleted...****" - Arbalister, Sapience's fanboy, in a moment of rare insight.
"It's not what you say, it's how you choose to say it." - Sapience, LOTRO CSM
"It is not what you say that matters, but the manner in which you say it ..." - William Carlos Williams, avowed socialist
Sapientis bardus est.
"If someone who always supports a position is a shill , does that mean someone who refutes it constantly is a shill for the opposition?" - Sapience (@rickheaton), a shill
"Pssst, people who think they're being sooper sekret.... I see you! :)" - Sapience (@rickheaton), waxing paranoid
"Hate to ruin a perfectly good conspiracy theory, but I never worked on Hellgate. Sorry folks." - Sapience (@rickheaton), former associate of Ping0
"One last thing I'd like to mention is that there seem to be some former members of the community who have decided to add to the concerns and issues surrounding the transition by misrepresenting some facts. Primarily, banning is almost always a last resort. It usually takes a willful act (indeed a series of them) on the part of the party being removed from the community to get banned. Multiple warnings, infractions, and appeals are usually involved. Often times warnings are informal and sent via PM or a simple post asking those involved to change the subject, refrain from posting certain topics, etc." - Sapience, LOTRO Forum Topic Clarification Needed On Profanity Community Guideline
"I may never leave work. Tornados keep popping up between me and home." - Sapience (@rickheaton), with a poor understanding of justice
"... this *is* Sapience we're talking about, he's a big, mean....****Bzzzzzztttt****cli ck****Account Deleted...****" - Arbalister, Sapience's fanboy, in a moment of rare insight.
"It's not what you say, it's how you choose to say it." - Sapience, LOTRO CSM
"It is not what you say that matters, but the manner in which you say it ..." - William Carlos Williams, avowed socialist
Sapientis bardus est.
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Posted 16 April 2012 - 10:01
Yeah, but it's not a Sith.
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AgamemnonV1, on 16 April 2012 - 10:01, said:
Yeah, but it's not a Sith.
Its better!!! Its a Darkside Jedi!!! Seriously, I've done much more heinous things as a darkside Jedi than I ever did as a darkside Sith
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Posted 16 April 2012 - 19:52
Spidey, on 16 April 2012 - 18:57, said:
Its better!!! Its a Darkside Jedi!!! Seriously, I've done much more heinous things as a darkside Jedi than I ever did as a darkside Sith
EVILZ!
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Posted 20 April 2012 - 10:08
Spidey, on 16 April 2012 - 18:57, said:
Its better!!! Its a Darkside Jedi!!! Seriously, I've done much more heinous things as a darkside Jedi than I ever did as a darkside Sith
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Posted 20 April 2012 - 11:35
AgamemnonV1, on 20 April 2012 - 10:08, said:
I'll never understand that game. If you become a darkside Jedi, doesn't that mean you're a Sith?
Well, it should, but then again, you can be a lightside Sith! (Not that I would go that route)
No, my Rep side chars are all paragons of virtue, while my Imp side chars are all evilz!!
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Posted 20 April 2012 - 18:05
My Bounty Hunter, while not a Sith, is completely lightside, only way to keep Mako happy 
And my thoroughly darkside Sith Assassin has a Jedi companion that she is turning to the darkside (turning her in other ways as soon as they patch in same sex romance )
What I would like to see is appearance changes for lightside, start glowing or something. A lot of people in the PvP community think faction should be based on lightside/darkside/neutral. That would make 3 factions and help with faction imbalances, and you could change your faction without rerolling.
And my thoroughly darkside Sith Assassin has a Jedi companion that she is turning to the darkside (turning her in other ways as soon as they patch in same sex romance )What I would like to see is appearance changes for lightside, start glowing or something. A lot of people in the PvP community think faction should be based on lightside/darkside/neutral. That would make 3 factions and help with faction imbalances, and you could change your faction without rerolling.
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Posted 20 April 2012 - 19:00
my JK's eyes glow when fighting 
my very pure JK, hehe
my very pure JK, hehe
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Posted 27 April 2012 - 16:39
Not to reopen the thread, but somebody just made a better version of Klout, called "Klouchebag". Rather than measuring your influence on the Internet, Klouchebag measures how much of a douchebag you are on Twitter. So naturally, after checking my Klouchebag score, I had to look at ol' Ricky's score. See below:
The MMO Troll's Klouchebag: 7 - A nice person http://klouchebag.com/#themmotroll
Rick Heaton's Klouchebag: 34 - A bit of a prat http://klouchebag.com/#rickheaton
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Rick Heaton's Klouchebag: 34 - A bit of a prat http://klouchebag.com/#rickheaton
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Posted 27 April 2012 - 16:46
The point he makes in the FAQ does have some merit.
I hope Ricky sees some wisdom in that someday. Time will tell.
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But... but my Klout score is important!
No it's not. It's like search engine optimisation, only for yourself. Ignore it. Concentrate on making amazing things, caring about the people around you, and not being a <edit>. If you do that, then you'll soon realise that the number some algorithm made up about you doesn't matter one jot.
No it's not. It's like search engine optimisation, only for yourself. Ignore it. Concentrate on making amazing things, caring about the people around you, and not being a <edit>. If you do that, then you'll soon realise that the number some algorithm made up about you doesn't matter one jot.
I hope Ricky sees some wisdom in that someday. Time will tell.
"Getting a chuckle out of reading unofficial forums. Don't confuse us with facts, we have conspiracies to promote! :)" - Sapience (@rickheaton), in full denial
"If someone who always supports a position is a shill , does that mean someone who refutes it constantly is a shill for the opposition?" - Sapience (@rickheaton), a shill
"Pssst, people who think they're being sooper sekret.... I see you! :)" - Sapience (@rickheaton), waxing paranoid
"Hate to ruin a perfectly good conspiracy theory, but I never worked on Hellgate. Sorry folks." - Sapience (@rickheaton), former associate of Ping0
"One last thing I'd like to mention is that there seem to be some former members of the community who have decided to add to the concerns and issues surrounding the transition by misrepresenting some facts. Primarily, banning is almost always a last resort. It usually takes a willful act (indeed a series of them) on the part of the party being removed from the community to get banned. Multiple warnings, infractions, and appeals are usually involved. Often times warnings are informal and sent via PM or a simple post asking those involved to change the subject, refrain from posting certain topics, etc." - Sapience, LOTRO Forum Topic Clarification Needed On Profanity Community Guideline
"I may never leave work. Tornados keep popping up between me and home." - Sapience (@rickheaton), with a poor understanding of justice
"... this *is* Sapience we're talking about, he's a big, mean....****Bzzzzzztttt****cli ck****Account Deleted...****" - Arbalister, Sapience's fanboy, in a moment of rare insight.
"It's not what you say, it's how you choose to say it." - Sapience, LOTRO CSM
"It is not what you say that matters, but the manner in which you say it ..." - William Carlos Williams, avowed socialist
Sapientis bardus est.
"If someone who always supports a position is a shill , does that mean someone who refutes it constantly is a shill for the opposition?" - Sapience (@rickheaton), a shill
"Pssst, people who think they're being sooper sekret.... I see you! :)" - Sapience (@rickheaton), waxing paranoid
"Hate to ruin a perfectly good conspiracy theory, but I never worked on Hellgate. Sorry folks." - Sapience (@rickheaton), former associate of Ping0
"One last thing I'd like to mention is that there seem to be some former members of the community who have decided to add to the concerns and issues surrounding the transition by misrepresenting some facts. Primarily, banning is almost always a last resort. It usually takes a willful act (indeed a series of them) on the part of the party being removed from the community to get banned. Multiple warnings, infractions, and appeals are usually involved. Often times warnings are informal and sent via PM or a simple post asking those involved to change the subject, refrain from posting certain topics, etc." - Sapience, LOTRO Forum Topic Clarification Needed On Profanity Community Guideline
"I may never leave work. Tornados keep popping up between me and home." - Sapience (@rickheaton), with a poor understanding of justice
"... this *is* Sapience we're talking about, he's a big, mean....****Bzzzzzztttt****cli ck****Account Deleted...****" - Arbalister, Sapience's fanboy, in a moment of rare insight.
"It's not what you say, it's how you choose to say it." - Sapience, LOTRO CSM
"It is not what you say that matters, but the manner in which you say it ..." - William Carlos Williams, avowed socialist
Sapientis bardus est.
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Posted 27 April 2012 - 16:50
I have no idea what you're on about, MMOT, but "A bit of..." Shurely shome mishtake?!
Dal - Is that really him? I had him down as an over-enthustiatic still spotty 20-something...
Dal - Is that really him? I had him down as an over-enthustiatic still spotty 20-something...
Good players adapt, bad players whinge; which are you?
I find that, where Turbine is concerned, optimism is a mayfly that lasts two seconds in the face of the blowtorch of experience.
I find that, where Turbine is concerned, optimism is a mayfly that lasts two seconds in the face of the blowtorch of experience.
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Posted 27 April 2012 - 16:56
Raedwulf, on 27 April 2012 - 16:50, said:
I have no idea what you're on about, MMOT, but "A bit of..." Shurely shome mishtake?!
Dal - Is that really him? I had him down as an over-enthustiatic still spotty 20-something...
Dal - Is that really him? I had him down as an over-enthustiatic still spotty 20-something...
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Posted 27 April 2012 - 17:04
Nose looks like it's been broken... Now who would have done that? Apart from, obviously, an amateur, since they didn't do a proper job of it... {evil grin}
Good players adapt, bad players whinge; which are you?
I find that, where Turbine is concerned, optimism is a mayfly that lasts two seconds in the face of the blowtorch of experience.
I find that, where Turbine is concerned, optimism is a mayfly that lasts two seconds in the face of the blowtorch of experience.
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Posted 27 April 2012 - 19:05
Gives beards everywhere a bad name, does lil ol' Ricky.
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