Celestrata video

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I'm not sure why we give a frak about this. Celestrata's gender means about as much to me as my mail-person's, which is to say nothing at all.

His gender hasn't changed he's still a he and while it might not bother anyone here but it bothers me. I don't want to know what you're doing to yourself personally and I don't need to see your face. Give me the information I need about LOTRO and keep that personal crap to yourself and quit shoving it in my face.

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Modbreak: No ad hominems, whatsoever.

I'm assuming this is going to cover all forms of insulting, not just those that happen to involve gender changing? Fat, old, stupid, incomptent, lazy, etc insults are all banned from now on? Wouldn't want to see some sort of favouritism going on where some things can be poked fun at and other things can't for some arbitrary reason.

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Really don't understand them using CM's to advertise features to the players in video clips, maybe the advertising budget was blown when they hired the Crocodile Dundee Rohirrum!

Not saying she did a bad job, was better than Sap, but she clearly looked uncomfortable and needs to learn to breath when speaking, at times I thought she was going to pass out from lack of oxegen.

But the transgender bashing is not needed, Bashing Sapience ( After his Video last week am gonna call him The Fat Controller) because we feel he's out of control with his moderation is all well and good and deserved ofc.

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But the transgender bashing is not needed, Bashing Sapience ( After his Video last week am gonna call him The Fat Controller) because we feel he's out of control with his moderation is all well and good and deserved ofc.

Oi, no fat insults. If we're going to censor gender digs, we've got to censor the lot. To me, both are as bad as each other with their moderating lately, so either both get their share of insults or, as Muer as said, neither of them do. I'm an equal opportunities kind of guy :P

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Oi, no fat insults. If we're going to censor gender digs, we've got to censor the lot. To me, both are as bad as each other with their moderating lately, so either both get their share of insults or, as Muer as said, neither of them do. I'm an equal opportunities kind of guy :P

ahh Doro, there's always room for Thomas and friends..

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[modbreak]The other thread about this video has been deleted. It's a duplicate and the hostility in that thread was just way off the charts. Keep it civil, please.

I didn't get to read that, but that's sad. I thought the crowd here was at least intelligent and educated if not entirely civilized. I'm just surprised at the amount of people who didn't already know about Celestrata and who she was--Seraphina Brennan from Massively.

Anyway, I loved the video! I commented in the thread about the Sapience video that I liked how the Turbine people were real and down-to-earth compared to the snake-oil spokespeople from other MMO companies, and this kicks it up another notch. Nice job! Now let's be one big happy family and get back to blaming everything on WB. d;)b

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The other thread was vile, I'm glad MueR put his foot down and zapped it.

And honestly, I did not know about this, nor does it matter. It took absolute courage for Seraphina to sit down and make that video, knowing it would scrutinized and commented upon by the more classless sorts. For that alone she's got my respect.

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Why are the CM's doing these videos, you ask? Normally the Producers do videos, occasionally dragging a Dev into them here or there, but now they have tasked the Community Management team with at least routine video duties... and honestly, I'm surprised it wasn't done before this.

CMs are tasked with interfacing with the LOTRO community, so it only stands to reason that they would do so in various mediums, and not just in print/text, such as on the Lorebook and Forums. In fact, CMs have appeared quite often on various LOTRO podcasts, so why not in a video? It allows the Producers (who historically have been stuck doing these, and thus we rarely got videos) to do other things, and expands the reach of the CMs. Now they are making contact with players who never go to the forums, don't read the Lorebook, don't listen to podcasts, but do enjoy Youtube. And if they like what they see, it might bring them to the Forums, expanding the community there.

In short, this is an excellent idea on Turbine's part.

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I didn't get to read that, but that's sad.

Same here.

I thought the crowd here was at least intelligent and educated if not entirely civilized.

Obviously not.

I do however hope, that a proper amount of Elf-bashing is allowed here, otherwise I’d feel out of place.

About Turbine promotional videos – I dislike them intensely.

While it’s cool to be a Fat Beardy Dwarf, I would not allow this Sapience guy to water my plants, never mind manage my community.

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Hey Muer. Only a Ginger can call another Ginger a Ginger ;)

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I'm assuming this is going to cover all forms of insulting, not just those that happen to involve gender changing? Fat, old, stupid, incomptent, lazy, etc insults are all banned from now on? Wouldn't want to see some sort of favouritism going on where some things can be poked fun at and other things can't for some arbitrary reason.

Oh come on Doro, you know what I mean. It depends on context. If a light-hearted comment is made with no intention of hurting or insulting someone, that's perfectly fine. If you're trying to hurt someone's feelings, you're crossing a line. The other thread was in no way light hearted.

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Oh come on Doro, you know what I mean. It depends on context. If a light-hearted comment is made with no intention of hurting or insulting someone, that's perfectly fine. If you're trying to hurt someone's feelings, you're crossing a line. The other thread was in no way light hearted.

I'm just a little concerned that we can attack Sapience with various insults and it be seen as light-hearted but if we insult Celestrata, it's the threat of a ban. I can understand if people start really digging into someone, even Sap doesn't deserve that really, but if we really think about most of our criticisims contain some sort of insult towards Turbine staff. I'd thought you could mock Celestrata's amazing ability to both refuse to ask for directions when lost AND walk in high heels just as much as you could mock Sapience's incompetence or weight.

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I'm just a little concerned that we can attack Sapience with various insults and it be seen as light-hearted but if we insult Celestrata, it's the threat of a ban. I can understand if people start really digging into someone, even Sap doesn't deserve that really, but if we really think about most of our criticisims contain some sort of insult towards Turbine staff. I'd thought you could mock Celestrata's amazing ability to both refuse to ask for directions when lost AND walk in high heels just as much as you could mock Sapience's incompetence or weight.

That's not what you were doing ;)

Besides, everyone knows men never get lost, we just take the scenic route!

Mock incompetence, fine, weight, not so much. Who knows, he might have a glandular problem?

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That's not what you were doing ;)

Besides, everyone knows men never get lost, we just take the scenic route!

Mock incompetence, fine, weight, not so much. Who knows, he might have a glandular problem?

From what I remember, all I was doing was referring to him as a he and compared him to an extreme Eddie Izzard (Izzard has both girl and boy modes but Celes has just girl mode it seems).

As for glandular problem, seems everyone has that now. I'm surprised people just don't say 'it's not my fault, my DNA just didn't give me a fast metabolism!'.

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Aaaaaaaand can we now get ontopic again?

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Aaaaaaaand can we now get ontopic again?

I think we've already discussed everything in the video... wasn't exactly much to it :P

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Heck, I didn't even watch the video!

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I think we've already discussed everything in the video... wasn't exactly much to it :P

Okay then. No reason to keep this open anymore. :P

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