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Posted 17 July 2012 - 19:45

Latest dev diary, enjoy or dont, I dont care :P

http://www.lotro.com...w-farmers-faire

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Posted 17 July 2012 - 20:16

View Postcossieuk, on 17 July 2012 - 19:45, said:

Latest dev diary, enjoy or dont, I dont care :P

http://www.lotro.com...w-farmers-faire

Whatever ;)
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Posted 17 July 2012 - 20:47

So 'meh' I'm actually annoyed they bothered with it.
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Posted 17 July 2012 - 22:35

Meh.

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Posted 17 July 2012 - 22:42

All right, it looks like I need to avoid Bywater for a few days.
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Posted 17 July 2012 - 23:25

I'm taking an alt through Eregion and Moria atm with a kinnie(well, he's further forward than me, hehe), so won't be going near the Shire!
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Posted 17 July 2012 - 23:37

Speaking as someone who loves Festivals, and has thrown himself whole-heartedly into the events, I'm wondering why they are insisting on creating all these events.

I think 4 festivals a year is reasonable, with periodic weekend events like the pirate thing or Bilbo's Birthday. It tends to make the unique enough to warrant attention (and unobtrusive enough that they can be ignored). The treasure hunt and farmers faire could also be periodic events - ones that go once a month or so. Given that they are now designing a signature event that's directly tied to the store, offering periodic weekend events would probably drive more sales (as would decreasing the cost of the festival items). I can only assume there will be a similar store-tie in for the farmer's faire.

But now, the number of full-blown festivals have gotten to the point where they run into one another, or they go on so long they become tedious, or the devs can't get their act together and other, more important things get put off. For example, The Spring fest & anniversary stuff went together fairly nicely. While I do think the 5th anniversary did need more emphasis, they could have had both things going on simultaneously. As per usual, tho, the devs couldn't get it together, and Spring fest was delayed to the end of May, pushing the farmer's faire further out, which pushes the Summer Festival out. At this rate, we'll be celebrating the Autumn festival in December.

What's more, I often feel like I shouldn't bother with the festival, especially when a key item and cosmetics will be made available in the store a few weeks later. I really got peeved when, after I worked extremely hard to gather those damn flowers to get the Steed of the Jester (I'm also a mount collector), only to have it show up in the store (the only mounts I don't have are the store mounts, other than a few I've won in lottos - I refuse to pay 20 USD for a something that is only usable for a single character. At least the Jester steed is only 995TP).

But what really steams me is that they are expending so many resources on this kind of fluff - like those stupid manniquins - and ignoring the major issues in the game, like the ongoing lag issues, the obstinate Draigoch and Orthanc bugs, and graphics issues. I know the Faire was in development long before Update 6 and the major issues that resulted, but this is an ongoing theme with Turbine.

Oh, well, I guess I'll end my rant now...

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Posted 17 July 2012 - 23:55

View PostTalisman, on 17 July 2012 - 23:37, said:

after I worked extremely hard to gather those damn flowers to get the Steed of the Jester (I'm also a mount collector)

I used to be a mount collector, until I took 10+ Store-only horses to the knee...
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Posted 18 July 2012 - 00:00

I hope there's actual FARMING involved, and yeah, 995 for steed of jester after all that flower picking pissed me off too... as for dev work being used there instead of stuff like lag issue...

"Our engineers are taking another in depth look at server performance issues and would like those of you who are experiencing these issues to share the following information with them."   They're checking out the lag.......... again... which makes me wonder how long ago they had stopped looking for it....  note how (i think it slipped out) Sap finally says ***server performance issues***

So see, Turbine's working on lag, not just fluff.. betcha this time their engineers give it a whooooooooooole week's attention =P

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 00:19

The only thing that matters about this festival:

Is the Inn League active?

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 00:44

This brings to mind one of the biggest complaints about Rift. It isn't so much a problem anymore, but when Rift was in its first year of operation, they were producing game updates roughly every six weeks. Each of those updates brought a new in-game event, and those last 6-7 weeks. In effect, we would do one event, only to have another one start immediately afterwards, or shortly thereafter. After a few such events, people started to burn out on having events going on all the damn time.

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 03:30

View PostDarmokk, on 18 July 2012 - 00:19, said:

The only thing that matters about this festival:

Is the Inn League active?

Probably not. It wasn't active during the Anniversary Festival. I imagine they save it for the "true" seasonal fests.

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 03:42

View PostTalisman, on 18 July 2012 - 03:30, said:

Probably not. It wasn't active during the Anniversary Festival. I imagine they save it for the "true" seasonal fests.

Look if I'm going to that droege party I need at least a bunch of booze.

Bad planning.

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 04:25



I... guess I'm really looking forward to what I think about it?

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 07:37

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Jesus, how about a pause here or there, Sap? I was afraid he was going to run out of breath and collapse from trying to read his script as fast as humanly possible!
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Posted 18 July 2012 - 08:25

View PostArdraug, on 18 July 2012 - 04:25, said:

I... guess I'm really looking forward to what I think about it?
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Posted 18 July 2012 - 09:13

View PostTalisman, on 17 July 2012 - 23:37, said:

Speaking as someone who loves Festivals, and has thrown himself whole-heartedly into the events, I'm wondering why they are insisting on creating all these events.
...

Have you not noticed that most festivals now come with a store bought element, perhaps to reset daily quests or something. The only reason Turbine develop content is if there is a store tie in somewhere, there will be here to.
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Posted 18 July 2012 - 12:53

View PostArdraug, on 18 July 2012 - 04:25, said:



I... guess I'm really looking forward to what I think about it?

Damn it, Sap, you better not be playing with me. PvMP getting attention? Allow me to put on my sceptical hat!
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Posted 18 July 2012 - 14:28

View PostThe MMO Troll, on 18 July 2012 - 07:37, said:

Jesus, how about a pause here or there, Sap? I was afraid he was going to run out of breath and collapse from trying to read his script as fast as humanly possible!

I was getting flashes of Donald Trump in my mind "We're gonna do this, we're gonna do that". :P

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Have you not noticed that most festivals now come with a store bought element, perhaps to reset daily quests or something. The only reason Turbine develop content is if there is a store tie in somewhere, there will be here to.

Yep, it's been creating a negative cloud that hovers over the festivals for me.
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Posted 19 July 2012 - 08:57

I'm patient enough to grind for the festival horse... minute my main has all that festival's horses though I'm out so truth be told, you gotta be hardcore impatient to use those overpriced festival resets.. +5 ignore points to them so far =D

Trick is enjoy the fluff if you likes it a few days, then ignore all festival except that daily til you got the horse.. after that up to you if you wanna go back to "normal" festival duties or move on with your life.  Too much of something is rarely good.




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