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Do you think LOTRO will make it to the end of the books?

Do you think LOTRO will make it to the end of the books?   46 votes

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I would have loved to ask that one on the official forums, because if asked here some will say the results are biased, but the thread would be removed faster than the time it would take me to create it, so I ask the question here.

Do you think LOTRO, as it is now, will survive until the very end of the books, Mordor, Aragorn's wedding, Sack of the Shire and end of Saruman, Grey Havens?

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Even if they did miraculously get that far, I wouldn't want to see it. Turbine has ruined Middle Earth enough for me.

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No.

Right now they are losing too many customers and they would have to kiss up with loyal players. I know this isn't what they say the situation is like, but it's what I have determined to be is true from the available information.

The problem with it is that WB has bought Turbine for the "working" microtransaction mechanisms and uses the LOTRO game specifically to test different kinds and styles of microtransactions. They are researching what kind of possible transaction has what kind of financial impact. And as Fernando Paiz said, people don't leave even if they are complaining. Probably not true, but his view in his own words. Kate Paiz on the other hand is nowhere to be seen and either does nothing to make the game more attractive to players or just sucks at it. Those two in charge won't bring the game back - but they can fulfill WB's "microtransaction research mission". They won't be replaced by WB (although I rate them as the type who would suddenly leave for greener pastures).

The loss of customers puts the game into a situation where I expect WB might pull the plug (*) any second, and that specifically means even before the launch of an at the time already announced expansion. Turbine staff working on content, and our friend Sapience in particular, will learn about it at the same time as we do.

(*) pull the plug means announcing the game will be closed a couple months in the future and no more work on it

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Not a chance

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I don't think it does even matter at this point anymore. Aside to very few remaining most hardcore of hardcore lore freaks that is.

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I think they will make it to the end, but it all hinges on whether the game servers must be shut down when Turbine doesn't extend the license. The end of the license definitely signals the end of development, but, based on what they've said about past development, they can keep anything they've already developed. That means, to me at least, that the end of the license doesn't necessarily mean that the servers have to be shut down.

Even if Helm's Deep doesn't bring in the sales, there's still enough people throwing money at the game to keep it limping along until the end of 2014, and maybe even through 2015.

The Mordor expansion will be released in 2014. It might not even be a true expansion, but a series of epic books that carries us to the destruction of the ring. If they do make Mordor a formal expansion, they will make all the usual promises, and then break them all when they can no longer develop anything at the end of 2014. The servers will then be shut down sometime in mid-2015.

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Yes.

I intend to be there, watching Barad-Dur collapse in ruin.

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Aren't we moving very slowly? I might be 2020 at this pace - so I say no.

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Nah... ain't the profitable cash cow it could have been with some friggin' quality and proper customer service.

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Do you think LOTRO, as it is now, will survive until the very end of the books, Mordor, Aragorn's wedding, Sack of the Shire and end of Saruman, Grey Havens?

We might see mordor in a very simplified way, the rest is certainly out of the roadmap. And that is if Turbine rushes us through a small corridor towards mordor. The game is in maintenance mode mostly, the good devs have been moved as was celestrata or fired and we are stuck with rick heaton.

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Just a little correction, Celestrata nor Sapience are developers. They are community managers.

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Not a chance

Rubbish! Not strong enough. Try Not a chance in Utumno. ;)

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Turbine isn't going to bring anyone to the Gates of Mordor, the way the communities are falling apart and leaving I'll be surprised if they make it through Helms Deep to the Muster of the Rohirrim...

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Not a chance. The business model kills off the customers faster than anything else they ever did. Even if the game was slowing down with Moria, Moria dwarfs ROI and ROR by an order of magnitude for content. It's never going to get better, just worse, as it has with each 'update'.

And I'm talking about original content. One thing I've noticed with a lot of updates, they are quietly removing the old content and replacing it, and the amount keeps dipping. At some point, they'll be able to point to Moria and claim it has LESS content than ROI or ROR.

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Er, what old content are they removing?

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I don't know about content removal, but the zone revamps and scalable instances are making everything simpler and faster to the point where you can only spend a fraction of the time you used to spend in those places.

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As the level cap continues to increase making those lower levels quicker is probably not a bad thing.

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As the level cap continues to increase making those lower levels quicker is probably not a bad thing.

Yeah but the original content up to level 35 or so has the most enjoyable material, and the most choice.

What they are doing is essentially optimizing the wrong direction, shifts more and more questing time away from the best areas.

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No, I don't think so. As for the last addons/updates, Turbine is repeating itself. Besides mounted combat, there have been no new inspirations. Grinding, grinding and....more grinding. Rebuilding Hytbold for weeks, doing the same quest over and over again,

I haven't been to Wildermoore so far, I'm kind of reluctant, to be honest. After what I've read about it, there is nothing that drags me there. Oh, what an exitement when Evendim came and later on Forochel! For Evendim my toon was way too low but we made it there, running and dying :)

Nowadays, I miss this exitement due to the foreseeable tasks. Not even the epic books can convince me to explore the new landscape.

Maybe it's all like old Bilbo said: I feel thin and stretched, like Butter scraped over too much bread.

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In answer to the OP, no. The reasons should be obvious by now.

Rubbish! Not strong enough. Try Not a chance in Utumno. ;)

Quite right. Utumno and Angband (and its variants) are quite independent of LOTRO.

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Er, what old content are they removing?

I used to be able to do quests with newb characters in all the starter regions, some of those older quests are now gone. There was one where you had to locate a tree, and a couple other sites near the elf area, that quest is no longer there, hasn't been for some time now. No idea at all why it's been removed. Same with the wolf area near the elf starter town, no longer is there a quest to find a backpack, totally gone. It may have been reduced to elf only, but you could do it with any race at one point.

And I know they aren't there because I always leave Trivial quests activated so I can do it all.

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