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what if the whole world voted on the US presidential election?

Worldwide Vote!

some interesting results so far.

the stench of Tim Horton's & Socialism in my "snow-beaner" Homeland, puts the corrupt hag slightly out in front.  thankfully that doesn't seem to be the case globally.

you might say this is premature of me...

but i would just like to congratulate President Donald John Trump on a victorious campaign that defied all the odds!  d;)b

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Only two options given, when there's 3 other viable candidates? Nah, I'm not joining this 2 party nonsense the media keeps pushing on everyone. They act like it's a choice between Civil War or WW3, and then ignore people like Stein.

I can only hope Trump wins, since he's the lesser of two evils. Lord knows the population won't all throw aside the system and make the right choice otherwise.

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Interesting results worldwide in that link.

I have found this US election very interesting and see many parallels to how the media / establishment handled Brexit.

Trump is the anti-globalization candidate and he and his supporters are suffering the same media onslaught as the "Leave" campaign in Brexit IMO... except on steroids now as the Brexit vote caught the establishment by surprise and they are pulling out all the stops for this election.

I find it quite entertaining to watch.

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Internet Trolls for Trump. How surprising...

They like this Shameless Simpleton. So much like them... 

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That's very interesting, but other countries don't really get a say in who gets elected, at least not according to our law.

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Well, if it was possible I'd hope neither of them would be elected, because they both are not liked (or hated...) by at least 50% of the USA population... I think Trump is a disaster for the rest of the world, although I really can't say if the things he say are also the things he plans to do. If I was a US citizen and could vote I would never ever vote for Trump for the next 3 reasons:

1. He denies climage change
2. He appears to be unstable/ very impulsive in his actions. That is not a good quality for the person who holds command of the best/largest army in the world.

3. His opinion on weapons is the complete opposite of mine

Clinton will stick to the status quo, which isn't great either and I think she is too much influenced by the rich, but I think she is at least more experienced

let's just say at this moment I'm happy I am not a US citizen ;)

 

And I'm really baffled a Christian would vote for Trump. When I read the newspapers in Europa they all say the evangelicals are in favor of Trump. I really can't understand this.

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2 hours ago, Thrabath said:

 

And I'm really baffled a Christian would vote for Trump. When I read the newspapers in Europa they all say the evangelicals are in favor of Trump. I really can't understand this.

There is a lot about this particular election that doesn't make sense to be fair.  I would argue that Clinton is far more qualified than Donald Trump and the fact that she had to share a debate stage with a "reality star" three times is sort of mind boggling to me.  He acts like a pubescent, spoiled child. And he lies.  He lies so much it's like he created an alternate reality for just him and the people who follow him.  It's bizarre.  He can literally say almost anything and it doesn't matter.

I see the same sort of fear mongering coming from Trump that I did in the UK pre-Brexit.  It's the same type of xenophobic, homophobic, sexist, and misogynistic bullshit dialed to 11.

And the irony of it all...Trump isn't even a Republican.  Not really.  He's whatever he needs to be to win.

 

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5 hours ago, Papi said:

 

I see the same sort of fear mongering coming from Trump that I did in the UK pre-Brexit.  It's the same type of xenophobic, homophobic, sexist, and misogynistic bullshit dialed to 11.

Bingo. Same with ruling Polish populist trash. 

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6 hours ago, Papi said:

And he lies.

But then so does Clinton. If we're just going to say Trump isn't suitable because he lies, fear-mongers, and acts like a child, then Clinton's in the some boat as him. It just baffles me that, out of a whole nation, these two plebs were the best that red and blue teams could muster.

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12 minutes ago, Doro said:

But then so does Clinton. If we're just going to say Trump isn't suitable because he lies, fear-mongers, and acts like a child, then Clinton's in the some boat as him. It just baffles me that, out of a whole nation, these two plebs were the best that red and blue teams could muster.

I didn't say she didn't lie. All politicians lie. Or bend the truth. But there is no comparison between the two. He doesn't care about the facts. He knows a wall will never be built but he says it anyway because the facts don't matter. He knows that he will never be able to forcibly deport 10 million illegal immigrants but he says he will because again the facts don't matter.  He will tweet something or there will be a video of him saying something, and he will flat out deny it an hour later.  His lies is just the tip of the ice berg on why he is not suitable. But I agree, there have never been two candidates with such a low favorability rating across the board.

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Trumps team have taking has Twitter account off of him as they cant trust him with it.  If you cat trust him with a twitter account how the hell can trust him to run a country. 

Could you imagine him during and after a meeting of world leaders

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2 hours ago, Papi said:

I didn't say she didn't lie.

No, but you didn't say she did, either. Even in this post, you went with more of what Trump has lied about, when there's a plethora of Clinton lies to go with it. Which is basically what the media has been doing this whole time, too.

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Trump is unfit for anything but grabbing women by the pussy.

I dislike Clinton, but out of the 2, if I had to vote, I would vote for her.

Sadly, there doesn't seem to be any reasonable Republican candidates lately.

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6 minutes ago, LordVorontur said:

Trump is unfit for anything but grabbing women by the pussy.

Not sure he's even fit for that. But, then again, money and women do go hand in hand... or hand in vag.

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2 hours ago, Doro said:

Even in this post, you went with more of what Trump has lied about, when there's a plethora of Clinton lies to go with it. Which is basically what the media has been doing this whole time, too.

False equivalency.  His lies are outrageous, blatant and have done more damage to the political discourse in my country than any nominee before him.  Even an independent, non-partisan group did the fact-checking.  70% of what comes out of Donald Trump's mouth (when speaking to the public) is a lie.  Clinton is around 20%.  I'm all for shaking up the status quo, going against the establishment, but not when it's done for the sole reason of feeding the ego of a narcissist pig.  There is also something to be said about what a person chooses to lie about.  

What I find telling is that some of the news outlets are now saying (of course) that they should have done a better job fact checking Trump during the primaries, they actually admitted he got a free pass because he was "good TV".  You reap what you sow.   

 

 

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I've found the non-partisan fact checkers end up being quite partisan after all.

Both are horrible and could only beat each other. I'd vote for third party or not bother before I'd cast a vote for either.

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The way I see it:

My personal primary objective for tomorrow is that there are two groups that I don't want rewarded for their behavior:

1) Trump's supporters who got cocky and spew racism and all other -isms much more freely now. That is very noticeable, and don't think that the Boston area is excluded. Even for Asians things got a lot tougher here. If you don't drive a pickup truck you get a lot more plowing from them.

2) The Democratic Party leadership, who has not conducted a remotely fair, democratic or transparent primary. What went on on the convention alone is outrageous.

Out of those two we can only dampen one tomorrow. To me it is obvious that it is more important to deliver a defeat to the white trash supporting Trump, because they can get much worse, and you don't want 4 years of increasing disturbance. The democratic party leadership is already at a maximum of corruption and they won't get much worse over the next 4 years. There is also hope that people inside the democratic party will affect change - because if the Republicans hadn't committed political suicide the Democrats would surely have lost.

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I dislike both candidates but for me Clinton is better qualified to actually do the job and would be the lesser of two evils (by far). I'm just surprised it appears to be as close as it is, the fact that there are actually so many people who consider Trump would make a good president is mind boggling?

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Has no one done the research on the scandals in the Clinton Presidency?  Hillary is in the middle of each and every one of them.

Then there's her completely do-nothing career in the Senate.

And the disaster that was her as Secretary of State.

And the email server.

Then there's Hillary's hubris and downright stupid policies with the Middle-east that are GREATLY favored by the military-industrial complex which are going to get EVEN MORE Americans killed.

Yeah, Trump's a complete personality train-wreck, but when you really look at Hillary, it's like making the choice between someone grossly incompetent, and someone that's going to rip us all off.  On the plus side, Trump's isolationist thinking is a good thing because it's gonna get us out of the foreign wars that we never should have started in the first place.

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2 hours ago, Almagnus1 said:

Has no one done the research on the scandals in the Clinton Presidency?  Hillary is in the middle of each and every one of them.

Then there's her completely do-nothing career in the Senate.

And the disaster that was her as Secretary of State.

And the email server.

Then there's Hillary's hubris and downright stupid policies with the Middle-east that are GREATLY favored by the military-industrial complex which are going to get EVEN MORE Americans killed.

Yeah, Trump's a complete personality train-wreck, but when you really look at Hillary, it's like making the choice between someone grossly incompetent, and someone that's going to rip us all off.  On the plus side, Trump's isolationist thinking is a good thing because it's gonna get us out of the foreign wars that we never should have started in the first place.

I predicted Slick Willy would be impeached in 1991 (before he was elected for his first term)... It took seven years but he did get impeached.

If Clinton wins there will be impeachment talk before she is even sworn in.

Clinton Foundation pay-to-play + emails showing up from Weiner's prosecution + further Wikileaks + 33,000 deleted emails + controversy around Comey and FBI investigations... the list of investigations and potential further revelations is staggering. 

 

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I didn't see any Democrats invade random countries. The embassy protection budget was cut by a republican-lead congress. Email is never safe. The suggestion that things would have been "top secure" just by using the department-issued server is ridiculous. Apart from that the Bush administration also used non-government servers (their servers were set up by the RNC). The republicans have been trying to nail Hillary Clinton for 30 years and only found boring stuff. And that includes an FBI lead by a republican.

Overall not very convincing to me. At worst she is in line with behavior of the Bush administration.

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30 minutes ago, Darmokk said:

Apart from that the Bush administration also used non-government servers (their servers were set up by the RNC).

In which over 20+ million emails were deleted (some pertaining to why/when/how we got into Iraq).  Republican talking heads don't like it when people bring that little issue up.

37 minutes ago, fittybolger said:

 

If Clinton wins there will be impeachment talk before she is even sworn in.

 

That talk started earlier this week.

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3 hours ago, Darmokk said:

I didn't see any Democrats invade random countries.

So what was Libya?

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The embassy protection budget was cut by a republican-lead congress.

And it was compromised because of Clinton.

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Email is never safe.

Bullshit.

When you have people that know what they are doing, email can be secure.

When you have some arrogant bitch decide to ignore secure email guidelines, and setup the world's best information service because she's breaking so many laws about handling of classified information that any other person would be executed for high treason, then you are correct.

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The suggestion that things would have been "top secure" just by using the department-issued server is ridiculous. Apart from that the Bush administration also used non-government servers (their servers were set up by the RNC).

Again, bullshit.  This was proven by Wikileaks, and verified by the FBI.

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The republicans have been trying to nail Hillary Clinton for 30 years and only found boring stuff. And that includes an FBI lead by a republican.

Yeah, keep telling yourself that.

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Overall not very convincing to me. At worst she is in line with behavior of the Bush administration.

Only not convincing because idiot democrats like yourself have your head shoved so far up your ass that you can't see daylight.

So yeah, I totally expect this to be deleted because that's what you Democrat types do when what you say is pointed out as wrong - that and ridicule the person.

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1 hour ago, Almagnus1 said:

 

So yeah, I totally expect this to be deleted because that's what you Democrat types do when what you say is pointed out as wrong - that and ridicule the person.

417 posts here and you expect this one to be deleted? I've never seen any political opinion deleted here, ever. 

 

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Donald Trump has a court case starting in December for alleged rape of a 13 year old.  Add to this all the women that have accused him of sexual assault, his comments about grabbing women by the pussy and them just letting you because you are famous.

This is on top of accusations of attempted rape of an ex business partner and rape of his ex wife.

Now these might all be lies, or some of them lies, but they is no way I could vote for a man that say the things he does about women.

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