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  1. It's entirely up to the companies to decide how to interpret the NDA in relation to my comments. If they want to 'come after me', as you put it, they know who I am. I do appreciate your concern on that point as well as your taking the considerable time to weigh in on one man's observations and opinions. Insofar as the factuality of my statements are concerned, you are entirely at liberty to specify where I have been in error. As for naming names and talking shit, guilty as charged. In the event you happen to be one of those names to which the shit has been assigned, there's nothing I haven
    14 points
  2. Hey there! I am SNy, and I used to play LotRO. Being a long time lurker over there and more recently here, I found that, after the latest developments, threads and comments, I just have to improve upon my original take on the "Turbine Dictionary of Contemporary English", with the initial version (still) being here. So, without much further ado, here comes a wall of text. Enjoy. --- Turbine Dictionary of Contemporary English v2, 2014-07-03, CopyLeft (L) SNy -- always [ˈɔːl.weɪz], adverb an indeterminate period of time that ends when Turbine sees fit; antonym: never (ref)
    13 points
  3. Modbreak: Dear GameDev, Please refrain from posting personal information on this board. Given your geolocation, it might be perceived as a rather vengeful thing. Say hi to the rest of Turbine, will you? .
    12 points
  4. Howdy gang. Just thought I'd let you know something incredibly interesting - it IS possible to obtain refunds from Turbine, regardless of their "all sales are final" spiel. I just got my money back from them for the Isengard preorder. Long story. I was initially furious with Turbine for holding back on the announcement of the stat changes until after they'd allowed people to preorder, so I asked for my cash back, and they said no. I attempted to get my money back through Paypal, but seemed to have no luck, so I went back to Turbine. They said all sales are final, and besides, the Isengar
    12 points
  5. I agree with this on a personal level. First post here although I consider this forum superior to the official one (where most of my posts over the years were confined to grants on rank x threads). Just wanted to try to give some personal observations about the Moors from behind the curtain. I was LOTRO Systems QA from Book 14 SoA until shortly before F2P went live, returning for a few months after RoI launched (before departing a second time after experiencing the 'new' Turbine in Needham under WB rule...I'd seen enough). For most of that time I was the QA guy responsible for PvMP a
    11 points
  6. hater So Turbine knew about the lag all the time and yet CS always blamed players computers or ISP for it on the official forums. Were they ordered to cover up or did they do it on their own initiative? We absolutely knew about the lag and server performance issues. This is a case in point that underscores my above observations about honest and clear communication. What kind of message are you sending your customers when at one moment you tell players that Mylotro is being discontinued to improve overall game performance and then the next that their rigs and providers are to blame for
    10 points
  7. I didn't like it, why gimp your ability to play your class the way you want to? That's all the revamp accomplished basically. I don't have an inside track on why they did the class revamp. But I can say that never once, either during my first stint or brief second tour, did I hear anyone talk about 'skill bloat', either as a player or dev concern. As Systems QA working daily with the devs responsible for such matters, I certainly would have. It's really a silly notion if one thinks about it. When have you ever heard an MMOer complain about having too many skills? Far more likely ex
    10 points
  8. I don't remember Rick having much of a presence on the forums before F2P so how aware or concerned the devs were about him later on is unknown to me (when I came back after ROI it didn't come up, at least around me). So all I could do was speculate although I did hear some talk that he wasn't super popular with either CS or some of the devas (for what that's worth). But just speaking personally, I never thought he was the right guy for the job nor ever thought that forum policing should have been within OCR's jurisdiction. That should have always been a customer service concern. I don't th
    10 points
  9. Danchir, I'll try and hit on a few points as best I can (and some of this is subjective...for example it's hard to say why we lost subs at various points). Infinite Crisis Since IC was after my time, I'll relate a (slightly redacted) explanation I got from a friend at the company related to why a mutual friend-a 10 year Turbine vet-was laid off last fall. "So, infinite crisis was costing 4mil a month to make. And they dumped all their marketing budget into a 'twitch' campaign....which is a new sorta web thing where you can watch people play games.....and unless you are Korean and pla
    10 points
  10. It's the day we've all been waiting for, Friday of Countdown Week! The very last day of the countdown to the departure of Rick "Sapience" Heaton, leaving his post as LOTRO Community Manager after 6 long years. Today's Countdown features a character that no matter how long you play it, never gets to advance beyond level One, the Session Play Chicken! Yes, level One is the only level this character will ever see, and they never get a chance to experience the hard choices that other characters do, namely "what do I choose as my specialization in the fabulous Trait Tree system that e
    10 points
  11. Some members on the Player Council can, yes. Take the Skill/Trait trees in Helm's Derp beta for example. Many of the ones trumpeting everything about them were on the Player Council and were brow-beating those who were offering suggestions to make things better or get rid of them entirely. At that time it felt more like they were "blocking" for and defending devs while the devs were just tossing things at a wall to see if they stuck. Sapience was allowing their nonsense while silencing others. It really was a clusterfuck and still makes me mad to this day.
    10 points
  12. I'm not sure you understand how this works. The old FAQ never existed. When Sapience says that the instances are part of the expansion, we should accept his statements as the infallible word of Mod. If we get something other than what we're expecting, it's because Mod works in mysterious ways, it is not up to us mere mortals to interpret the word of Mod. Of course there will be heretics who bring along their "proof" that Mod was wrong, such as Google cache pages or unpurged forum posts, but these are just fabricated pieces of evidence put there by the naysayers to test our faith in Mod.
    10 points
  13. Fascinating. I thought it was rather clear people disagreed with his disrespect of others. You perhaps need to consider something from an outsider's perspective: not many of us will give a hoot whether or not he can troll on the PC forums or if anybody did in the past year because we were never there. People being allowed access to the PC, being given privileged information, and then allowed to go after others on the beta or official forums is the issue. I see TheCrossbows inclusion on the Council as a tacit acknowledgment by Sapience that Crossbow's brand of incendiary posting is ac
    9 points
  14. 1 2 3 I had wanted to compile a history of changes vis the Moors over the years but found that a lot of the update lists were lost with the old forums; it would have been interesting to have a detailed record of all the changes in general, large and small.
    8 points
  15. I don't believe he is under any legal or moral obligation to answer every message he may get ..
    8 points
  16. That old used programmer can totally do this.
    8 points
  17. "GameDev" is the free player version of the name. To get the more creative name, you need to get out your credit card.
    8 points
  18. I guess there was a lot of dysfunction-and again, a lot of it was stuff you might see at any given game company (my brother was QA manager at Infinity Ward for Modern Warfare 2: the fall of the West-Zampella IW makes Turbine's issues pale in comparison)-but on the other hand the very fact that this little company, that in 1998 or so operated out of a garage basically, managed to build and maintain three well-known MMOs is an incredible accomplishment. Really it should have been impossible. And arguably had Turbine been a more conservative and less ambitious company, LOTRO never would have be
    8 points
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  20. I generally just pop by here to see what's going on (aka, lurking with nothing to add), but I wouldn't feel too bad about complaining, or having lingering negativity toward Turbine. I found this site because I couldn't believe I was the only one questioning the tone of the official forums. I have a lifetime subscription - I don't remember when I first started playing LOTRO - before Moria, anyway. I have 5 classes maxed. (well, I did - I'd quit before the Dol Amroth part.) I didn't visit the official forums often - generally, I'd go if I had a question, then get sucked in to the weirdnes
    8 points
  21. A lot of unsavory and dishonest scumbags are "likeable in person". That's how they get people to trust them, and get into positions of authority. Frodo: "I think [one of the enemy's servants] would - well, seem fairer and feel fouler, if you understand." A lying, hypocritical bully with a smile on his face is still a lying, hypocritical bully.
    8 points
  22. I'm somewhat surprised LOTRO RU is still up (I think they had 2 servers but my memory is a bit hazy on that) but really couldn't guess what its future holds. RU was kind of an enigma in a way, very distant but actually perhaps our most agreeable partner. The only brew up I remember with Russia was their turning on the open world PvMP feature we'd put in for China. Turbine-being utterly neurotic on the subject of Creeps outside the Moors (I'm not stretching it either: people worry less about ISIS and Ebola than Turbine did about creep escapees)-screamed and yelled and demanded they stop doin
    7 points
  23. Moreover, if you don't want to post the question publicly to this forum knowing it's a sensitive topic, that's even more reason for him not to answer. Kind of "duh."
    7 points
  24. Cantu Hi Aylwen. I've registered specifically to say a massive thank you for all your postings on this thread. This kind of honest retrospective is something we need a whole lot more of the in the gaming. A hobby that I really stopped paying any attention to with the death (in my eyes) of Lotro around the time of the F2P transition. I would say the thanks are all owed to you. LOTRO's community was absolutely unique, nothing else like it. I can't say that enough. I am truly proud that I, like my brother before me, had an opportunity to contribute to a game that brought so many wonderf
    7 points
  25. Unfortunately this is correct. I think they started working on it around the time MoM went alpha compliant but it's a bit hazy to me at this point. Might have been a bit later. On a whim I volunteered to help out with testing one afternoon sometime in the spring/early summer of '09. At that point it consisted of a Trollshaws area (same art and look) and a playable Ranger-type character. It was kind of cool to play a LOTRO toon on a 360 controller and the combat was pretty decent, snappy. But, incredibly, at one point they decided there weren't going to be any hobbits or dwarves... But
    7 points
  26. Looking at my wall of text I see I didn't really answer your questions. Liked: I worked almost entirely with the Systems team as QA rep and enjoyed it a lot (I didn't do much bug entry or typical qa monkey work, rather coordinating in meetings, working up test plans, providing input). LOTRO dev is divided into Content (quests, epic, festivals, instances) and Systems (combat, IA, crafting, PvMP, classes), with some overlap. I felt sttongly that the Systems devs-Jen, Elliot Gillman, Chris Knowles, Ken Burd, for example-were the real professionals among the devs. They were smart, mature, s
    7 points
  27. The NDA I signed related to trade sec. ts, practices damaging to business, etc. As an active employee at an MMO company it's generally frowned upon to 'out' yourself as an employee in game, the big worry being that you'll blab about upcoming changes, tech, etc. But I neither work for Turbine anymore nor know any 'trade secrets' at this point. And many of the remaining comrades I had at Turbine were culled in the last round of layoffs (thanks to Infinite Crisis...) The atmosphere when I first got there in the summer of 08 was great. Turbine, even back then, was very old school, relaxed
    7 points
  28. Wow...three Executive Producers in one year...must be a new record. "We're working on a new PvMP zone for Mines of Moria!" - Jeffrey Steefel "We're working on a new PvMP zone for Riders of Rohan!" - Kate Paiz "The team is also seriously investigating a new PvMP map in Osgiliath." - Athena “Vyvyanne” Peters
    7 points
  29. WoW's players were too busy running new dungeons, new raids, and PvPing to notice a poll on an obscure site...
    7 points
  30. Ugh, this is getting stupid. 1. I think some of you are choosing to assume the worst about all of Bucko's posts because some of them come off the wrong way. I didn't see any difference in his c-word post from others on that topic. But it's been decided that you aren't going to like anything he says, and we all know that, so do we really need to derail every single thread with this silly bickering? 2. Some of you are clear that you're going to use words that make some of us uncomfortable no matter what anyone says, fine. We asked nicely, you don't wish to respect the request, that's you
    7 points
  31. Regarding our reputation, my only real concern is that I'd prefer that we not get too nasty towards newcomers and people who still enjoy LOTRO, because we should want fresh faces and new perspectives even when they could use a little smoothing of rough edges. Beyond that, do I care that some OF lurker here might see a thread derail (the horror!) or some political comment that isn't any different from the goofy comments you see on US news sites? Not one bit. Our reputation is enhanced by our tolerance of a diversity of opinions and ability to handle differences through intelligent conversation.
    7 points
  32. Hello all, First off I wont be posting here much, not because I dont like the site, in fact I love it, but I am now in full lotro purging mode, going cold turkey. Just popped in to say sorry if anything I have posted over on the OF has caused anyone any problems here, keep up the good fight, its good to see people still saying the things that need to be said about the game, shame its ignored where it is needed most. I wont be expending anything further on that game now (damn thats hard to believe but thats the goal now) turbine/WB dont deserve the rights to that IP they have took t
    7 points
  33. Challenge accepted. Disclaimer: fictional content for satire only. Meant in good fun and not to disparage. Forum names slightly obscured to protect from google. <posted by: M.Eva-something> THANKYOU Turbine for listening to your playerbase!!1 We said we wanted to move into Gondor and you listened. This is the biggest free update we have yet received, what's with all the whining in other threads. Clearly some here are feeling so entitled and special that they demand fun to be spoon-fed to them by the devs - how lazy can you get when you log into a game expecting it to enterta
    7 points
  34. Heh, so he picked people "able to be civil" where "civil" means "agrees entirely with Turbine" and naysayers are plain uncivilized?
    7 points
  35. There's some great people at Turbine and they built something special (imho) and I'm sorry to hear it's apparently not going well. But: Some of them are now going to feel what my team went through when they played hardball with the European service contract and the F2P handover, I don't recall anyone in Turbine giving my guys and girls any sympathy or understanding when they lost their jobs. Not. One. Single, Word... Business is war apparently, well guess what? You're fighting with yesterday's weapons and that traditionally doesn't go well... (edited for grammar)
    7 points
  36. The move of services, which has just begun, is a huge caesura for all the European community. Some liked Codemasters service, some didn't. But we've known it for the last four years and knew what to expect. Now there's a new age of Turbine awaiting us. I've never played in the US, never used the forums. I did hear a lot of things in recent days, some which made me quite uneasy. But of course, the unknown, and change to what one was accustomed to, is always scary. But by now, until I get to experience things firsthand, I'm rather tired of all the doom (founded or not?) I've read in th
    7 points
  37. I know you can't read, but the word 'or' means an option, not both. So no, grinding isn't only the domain of boring content, it's repetitive, which I've said all along.
    6 points
  38. Our new data shows that our players not only want solo only content but overwhelmingly approve of us removing group content.
    6 points
  39. Well as a LOTROer myself HD was the definite breaking point for a variety of reasons. The Class Revamp-for all the reasons already given. It nuked what little individuality LOTRO had left for no gain in gameplay and simply alienated older players who were perfectly content with the system they had been using for over half a decade. And if anyone at Turbine believed skill trees would bring in new players...you know that saying about people being promoted to their level of incompetence? End Game-Knowing nothing about BBs I jumped into my first thinking it would be a crazy survival mode
    6 points
  40. Couple more Old Turbine shots. Snowed in one Moria winter night. That was a rough time. Launching MoM at the same time Lich King went out was our version of Pickett's Charge. The layoffs (about 25%). Then we had endless server issues, constant down times, a botched data shack move that cost the head of NetOps his job. My good friend Sully on Moria launch day. That day ended up being a bummer...we flipped the switch and...nothing. Iirc it was 24 hours before we finally got the Live servers up and stable. My office for two years. As frustrating as Turbine could be for a LO
    6 points
  41. Jesus, someone's sarcasm detector is broken. And gotta say, regarding your regular name calling, I don't think you've a leg to stand on whilst commenting on any behaviour/things said that you find unsavoury.
    6 points
  42. Since Tolkien uses a lot of religious elements and symbols in his books, is it possible fanbois are reacting to his works as a belief-system, however subconsciously? This might explain the severe 'devoutness' of some of these fanbois in the game. As a formerly religious person, I keep noticing a familiar pattern in the censored forums among LOTRO fanbois versus those who 'dare to question'. Many of the die-hard fans have an extremely emotional response to even the implication that their game is less than perfect. Some seem zealots to the point of absolute blindness when it comes to criti
    6 points
  43. Wrongful? No, no and no. Sometimes our words have unintended consequences, but those consequences happen regardless. This happens to us all. Instead of being all "woops, my bad, I didn't mean it like that" and recognise the other side of the coin, he holed up, dug his feet in and only defended himself. If he would have just recognised where logic could take someone from his assertions, at least acknoweldged that other side of the coin, that would have saved a lot of bickering. But instead he needed to staunchly defend the reasons why he believes his kin is still healthy and ignore that he and
    6 points
  44. That's the beauty of this forum: the moderators aren't trying to 'make' us focus on anything. People are free to express themselves. Yes, many of us have negative feelings about the game, some of us are still enjoying it greatly, and we all share our honest unfiltered opinions without fear of anyone deleting our posts, twisting our words, or shouting us down. People who feel positively are just as welcome as those who do not, but everyone needs to be prepared for true diversity of opinion, not the fake fluffy stuff you see over on the OF.
    6 points
  45. It's not that Sapience was incorrect that bothered me. Everybody makes mistakes. He had been probably been playing on Bullroarer and reading Helm's Deep patch notes for a couple months, and it's easy to forget what already went into the game and when. Fair enough. I'm often wrong myself. There were 14 errors players helped me find and fix in my Hytbold guide, for example. (It was so complicated, I actually still have all the diffs here on my computer.) Multiply that by the 1.2 million views it got, and I could have led a lot of players astray. It's the way he said it. Say those words out l
    6 points
  46. "100% of the population takes part in leveling content, so that must be the only thing players enjoy. So that's all we'll give to them! They'll be so happy and grateful they don't have to deal with nasty stresses like the raids and those icky 3 man instances." Turbine logic.
    6 points
  47. “A little knowledge that acts is worth infinitely more than much knowledge that is idle.” The Official Page Suilad! Hello! Bonjour and Guten Tag! Gûr Edhellen, hereby known as 'this guide', was written with the intent to help those interested in roleplaying, and learning about, an Elf of Tolkien’s literature. The mysterious beings, that inhabited the majority of his wonderful world. For many long years, the good Professor brewed his world in a cauldron of thought. Finally, he perfected the world of Middle-earth and all wit
    6 points
  48. Thorebane - I don't know whether michael is also you, as Ferro implies, or an ally, or what. However, Ferro is trying to engage in reasonable debate with you, he has provided sound arguments for his point of view, and you still have not provided him with the screenshot he has asked for. I am sure that continually minusing someone without good reason is not what the reputation system was intended for. He has been very mildly antagonistic; not so much so that he should be getting two minuses from the same two people in three consecutive posts. If you continue like that, you will give a bad
    6 points
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