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  1. I've just set up a discord server for those who need it @Aegledor, https://discord.gg/j84V2wEZyT Thank you for the birthday wishes @Urwendil. I've just turned off registration on the forums. I've decided not to shutter it completely.
    5 points
  2. Thank you, MueR. I've been going through my post history last night saving some of them in a txt file for recordkeeping, and while revisiting some very old threads have once again been amazed by the amount of thoughtful commentary and careful attention invested in those discussions. Happy to hear those threads won't disappear. This forum serves, in a way, as a definite history of Lotro as chronicled and meticulously documented by its actual players -- in real time, as it happened. The eyewitness, oral history of the game's (mis)management and (arrested) development. The Decline and Fall. The threads from 2014 especially are remarkably visceral, more painful in hindsight knowing their vehemence and raw emotion were about to be engulfed by a void. No finer storytelling on these matters, telling it like it is. And it was all unfolding live. Whatever the capering sycophants from the official forum claim to contribute with their Landroval cliques and RP elitist buffoonery, this forum space is the definitive Lotro Chronicle. Open for anyone to read.
    3 points
  3. To be honest, all those recent happenings suggested the exact opposite of Renaissance to me. Another up-and-comer kid inherits the "exec producer" role that bounces his way in a game of "hot potato," while yet another exec producer passes the buck and bolts. It's a clueless circle, and no one wants to touch the potato, but someone's got to juggle it. It's been the same "exec producer" carousel since Paiz got punted (and good fucking riddance to that one). Ever since, Lotro's been a revolving door of well-meaning [but inept] token office-sitters that recycles every 2 - 3 years or so. They're paid to be the Lotro dev team figureheads in PR, but in reality they're just middling managers out to pad their cv's before moving up the career ladder to greener pastures. And there you have the simple truth, which explains why Lotro is treading water (and is something the Lotro-hopefuls refuse to see, in the same carousel of new optimism - new disappointments). These "exec producer" up-and-comers are looking out for their careers, fellas. They're not looking out for Lotro. Their priorities are catchy bullet points on their linked in profiles. They're not here to realize grand visions for the game, because in order to have grand visions for the game one has to actually, you know, be a creative imaginative Lotro player and not a mediocre administrative assistant promoted into executive managerial role due to ability to jump through hoops and perform assigned tasks. Creatives create, uncreative types go into management and admin;) To anyone who's wondered how come Lotro is treading water and its deliverables keep falling short of the game's potential... this is why. It's sad to see the recurring cycle of Messianic hope at each new "exec producer's" arrival, when in reality, players are simply projecting their own love for the game onto this new corporate persona, thinking it shares their visions and aspirations. All it shares (with previous execs) is the certainty of Lotro being a career stepping stone to elsewhere. Cannot expect commitment and dedication, let alone any semblance of visionary future direction, from this premise. Those acrobatic admin monkeys won't know how to spell "vision" if you spot them all the letters. Wonder not at their incompetence, it's baked into the job description. If they'd been competent they'd be overqualified for the role. In fact, the carousel of "exec producers" recycling every 2 - 3 years may be an intended feature of Lotro business operations precisely for this reason. Gives the new admins a chance to cut their teeth in a low-key office environment, while the playing masses buy into each arrival with resurgence of hope (and spending) on a game they still think is high-key. And looking at Lotro forums... it's working as intended.
    2 points
  4. I wouldn't bother with PvMP. It's just trash. Especially on Landy. Even if SSG puts out the PvP gear Vastin says is in the works, it will only amount to another monetization scheme. Nostalgia isn't enough for me. My last recent log on was to inform my kinmates I stopped and to kick me from the kin roster if that suited them. I've concluded sometime ago, the names you mention and some other no lifer forum handles appear that, that forum thread is trash polluted by their presence. For me to be ask to post in such threads is about the same as asking me to stick my fingers in dogshit and pretending I like it. Ya nope. SSG has no creativity. Hasn't for years and whats worse is knowing Libbey (MoL) runs that show these days. His story telling is crap and gets worse each year. I recently read his rational for the new Brawler class. SSG's ideal of promotion is the same old, same old and extremely predictable. Some SSG dev says lets puts some stuff in the item data base and let a player find it hoping they make a splash somewhere on the net. As usual someone finds the info and acts like its finding Solomon's lost gold. Then comes the usual OOPS, Its just a wip so don't get excited. Meanwhile all their addicted accomplices jizz all over the keyboard. Once my game time got to the point I was spending the majority maintaining their Virtue, ILI, and so on, just to get into endgame group activities. It became a second job. Ya, that Lord of the Rings game isn't fun.
    2 points
  5. The only fun for me in this game is purely nostalgic and have nothing to do with the current game. I'm lvl 120 and had no interest to level up to even 121 even when the entire game was free last year xD Sight seeing old landmarks and soloing old instances is kinda fun. I usually go to reflecting pools to do various ancient history quests. PS. I do this maybe once a month or two months to satisfy my nostalgia. The community and what's left of the old whales and trolls are worse than they've ever been. Just look at the official forums and you'll see the usual suspects like that 115 year old djheyt who still to this day doesn't have a clue how to play or the russian p2w supporter troll Elmagor on every topic. I refuse to breathe the same Middle Earth air with these filth. I like the fact that there are few outspoken intelligent posters on there though. They don't shy away from calling whales whales to their faces. I used to do that too but I got an infraction for calling someone a hopeless whale and a clown so I stopped bothering a long time ago. I just chuckle now when I randomly read some whiny post and the first replies are always from the same whales defending everything about the game.
    2 points
  6. There are two runoffs for Senate in GA in early January. I'll be volunteering on those two after giving myself a weekend off to celebrate and recharge. There's also a race in Alaska that hasn't been called yet either. And there are more R Senate seats up for grabs in 2022 than D, so there's work to be done then too. Acting cabinet seat appointments can work for Biden now that the precedent has been set. Just having competent people who know what they're doing is a major improvement from the shitshow we've had to deal with lately.
    2 points
  7. At this point support for the EC doesn't make any sense. Where I live, in a very red state, my vote was totally meaningless. In California millions of Republican votes are meaningless. That other argument that candidates will only campaign in certain areas is no different than it is now. What would change is the need for candidates to go everywhere to gain support. You'll either have tyranny of the majority or tyranny of the minority. When my parents took my siblings and I out for dinner we didn't go to the restaurant one sibling liked and everyone else didn't. I don't think someone who received 3 to 4 million fewer votes should become President. If Republicans are against it because they'll never win an election again, then I think they should change their platform to more accurately reflect the will of the people. Go back to being for small government and fiscal responsibility, not what they've become. Just my opinion.
    2 points
  8. You are not alone. The following is pathetic. VIPs are complaining that this 'mini whatever' should have been included with VIP. What does SSG do? They add a 'War of Three Peaks map table with teleporter' as a (gated behind purchase) VIP quest reward to a vendor. And what do the VIPs do? They are excited and forget they paid at least $20 for something that used to be included in their subscription. https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthread.php?&postid=8042654#post8042654 What did Paiz say again? 'You can throw them anything and they will keep paying'? He was right.
    2 points
  9. This is an increasingly common occurrence. Players feeling the need to list their loyalty badges while submitting to the forums for help. https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthread.php?684095-Any-SSG-support-tech-please-view-this-thread-Cordovan "I'm a VIP since pre launch in 2006. Been in here before %99 of the community. Did not miss a single payment over the years. I never eve rcomplain about anything in the game, even though I have some valid reasons to.." I am at a loss for words from both ends (the player and the company) after reading this. I'm happy I left this shit show behind.
    2 points
  10. Someone has been reading my posts here, it seems: https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthread.php?683093-New-Mini-Expansion-Pack-quot-War-of-the-Three-Peaks-quot-announced-normal-collector-s-and-ultimate-edition&p=8039117#post8039117 How very ironic to see the very same person who's tirelessly latching onto my OF comments to lure me into entanglements, is copying my thoughts point for point nearly verbatim. And how well it explains this user's parasitic urges, deflection, and reactive mirroring techniques when facing her own truth. Imagine the self-loathing it takes to be so willfully mind-blind. Casting ropes of entanglement - all aimed at posts that do, in fact, align with this user's opinion - very tellingly point to an enormous degree of jealousy towards anyone who's able to shrug off LotRO's presence and influence in their own personal lives. Or, more accurately, towards anyone with a life. That's the real rage trigger, not the "SSG criticism". Behind the mask of performative arguing is a decomposing remnant of humanity that wants to quit but cannot, embroiling oneself in a perpetual self-destructive spiral with no dignity or self-worth, seeking temporary relief in relentless patrolling of the General Forum, addiction to inserting the last word, and petty pickings at semantics to tear down any reminder of the self-inflicted trauma. The theme siren song of the official forums. Some never evolve past middle-school playground of fecal bullying and reactive mimicry. No wonder they conflate studying monkeys with insights into human beings, having pushed the boundary of human experience as far as they're capable of reaching.
    2 points
  11. Since the forum is closing down, I am dumping a couple of screenshots from a few years ago. Additionally I would like to thank a certain poster here who showed me some insane exploits even when I had lost interest in exploring. Note, these exploits have been fixed for some time now. I don't know if this exploit had any name but anyways I call it "Skystairs". Behind the Forochel - Angmar passage: Climbing the Endless Stairs from Foundations of Stone: Only to be met by the ceiling... Attempting to climb the Endless Stairs from Zirakzigil, stopped by an invisible wall: Yoloing down from the invisible wall:
    1 point
  12. Oh shit. I had thought this forum would outlive LotRO. No tech-savvy competence on my part whatsoever, alas, else I would have volunteered to keep it going. Very much hoping someone will step forward. There is an absolute wealth of gaming history and "meta-LotRO" lore on those pages of threads from years past. Above all else: Someone please find a way to archive and preserve the entire exchange with Aylwen from this thread. And please make it publicly available online in archived form, before this forum goes down. That open conversation has brought so much closure and peace of mind as to why the game has turned into what it did -- not only for myself but for all of us who were still bitter and still cared enough back then. A noble act of public service, and immortal. Rest in power, Aylwenn. As for myself, I still remember that drama-overwrought November 2013 when I made an account here as soon as Helms Derp went live. I was one of the closed beta testers, and watching the still-beloved LotRO get violently assraped behind the curtain of NDA -- all while being utterly powerless to save it -- was as traumatic as it was infuriating. Yes, hence the username. I came here to vent and was overwhelmed by the welcome I received. Raising a toast to my fellow closed beta refugees. Damn, now I'm on a nostalgia kick. Remember when? . . . Shills from the O-Forums making accounts here to have 'dialogue' only to end up tarred and feathered and run away screeching. That overgrown Bango kid who loudly rage-quit this forum and who felt that incessantly referencing his white-collar job makes him appear a mature adult. Spidey, RIP. He was getting salty in his posts and replies, but only later did the real-life context behind his situation emerged. A humbling reminder how human we all are. Every time an Epic Battle (tm) played out on the O-Forums resulting in locked threads, was a sure-fire bet to see the heroes of those battles posting here after receiving their bans. Silence between dev cycles and no drama on the O-Forums meant that someone starts picking drama here instead. Nobody will remember the mindless moment when Trilwych accused me of being an anti-feminist because I wasn't offended at being called a cunt, but I still think that was hilarious. Angra's impeccably fastidious Server Population posts, served at regular intervals with German precision over the span of years. Gourmet popcorn-quality play-by-play summaries of the shitstorms and fecal flinging fests going on the O-Forums, sparing the rest of us the effort to keep track (thank you, kind steel-balled posters who could stomach writing them out. Shoutout to Macdui for keeping it up) Ballie. A fucking hero. Enough said. /swordsalute. A mention of honor to bobbylobs from Helms Deep beta for serving Sapience an assload of hard sass for all of us, he posted here for a bit after getting the ban. I am not mentioning Aylwen because I already did. Though not veteran enough to be with LotRO from SoA days, I lived vicariously through his memories and these will I always treasure. Surely omitting some gems, if you can think of any keep the list going!
    1 point
  13. Lol. You must be like 8 years old if you even notice the f word let alone make a lengthy thread about it. This whole thing looks like an 8 year old neighbour kid yelling "he said poop!"
    1 point
  14. to be honest, i don't understand why saying the F-word is such an issue in some countries. It isn't the case in Europe as far as I am aware, so I don't think it's an issue for EG7
    1 point
  15. I wouldn't want Amazon near the LOTR canon and I'm glad this MMO has been cancelled. Say what you will about Turbine and SSG's project management of LOTRO through the years, but they at least aspire to be faithful to the game's world and setting. Amazon makes glossy, soulless, drab trash. New World is looking to flounder completely, and most of its other projects have turned sour.
    1 point
  16. And this is why I quit as an alpha tester after Mirkwood.... this was looming on the horizon. And the fact that "elite raiding guild" fucked up the raids I had tested and balanced for months.
    1 point
  17. From Severlin: https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthread.php?684810-Daybreak-Acquisition-News-and-Standing-Stone-Games&p=8049624#post8049624
    1 point
  18. The Release Notes for Bullroarer Update 28.3 - Preview #1 includes these gems: So no more grinding the Minas Tirith dailies to get SoEs. And there seems to be relatively few chances to get SoEs from the current end-game content. It seems the only way to get them is to grind one or two a week or buy the scrolls from the store (or using Mithril). Plus, the change to the reputation accelerators means that end-game reputation becomes that much more of a grind (unless, of course, you buy the large ones from the store). I haven't been playing the game much lately, but have been putting off cancelling my subscription because I still love it. But I just logged on and cancelled.
    1 point
  19. It's the gift that never stops giving. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-55642101 A new impeachment possible to keep his shady, incompetent ass out of office forever.
    1 point
  20. Trump needs to be Impeached. Again Not because he is a registered Republican. Party affiliation has the least to do with this opinion of mine. He needs to be Impeached so he cannot run for elected office in the future. I know some here said we need to move on and have Trump become history. Saying Americans needs to find a way to unite and find resolve for our own problems and that Impeaching Trump will further divide the United States. In light of this past week, I'm not sure the US can be more divided outside of all out civil war. We'll see how much resolve Congress has to Impeach him this coming week. Just to note. No where does the Constitution say the same Congress who initiates an Impeachment proceeding is the same Congress that concludes the same proceeding. Having Mcconnell say it won't happen on his watch means nothing. He knows it, I know it, and so does the incoming Senate. If Senate Democrats/Independents are united, Trump will be convicted of the charges listed in the Impeachment articles. Will Trump being convicted as a result of Impeachment proceedings? Possibly, but the cost is a necessity for the US to again become a Union for the long term existence of US's Democracy. Presidents need to be clearly aware they are not above the law. They need to be clearly aware there are consequences for violating the Constitution and the law it imbues. I am exceedingly elated the Corruptor and Chief is being banned across several social media platforms. I said it should happen earlier in this thread and finally these platforms are understanding how much influence a dumb fuck with self serving goals can convince, coerce, threaten, and trash the lives of participants of a Democracy. As a side note about this, I'm also loving the fact Trump lost his addiction and is freaking out he can't feed his narcissism. On a meta type of context its just a grand moment knowing Trump the troll is reaping what he has sown. From the very beginning of his candidacy Trump eagerly stepped outside of acceptable discourse. Saying what ever popped into his two functioning brain cells. Often lowering any bar set across centuries of debate. Falling below even hole in the wall backroom bar lingua franca. Basic shit talk by a moron who can't stay on topic or even understand the universe isn't contained between his own ears. Things I see for Trump's future: He will not live at Mara Lago fulltime. He will not live in any Democratic represented nation outside of the US. He will spend the remainder of his life in litigation. Melania will divorce him and take Barron with her back to her native country. (She hasn't spent years teaching Barron her native tongue for fun.) He will forfeit/lose the majority of his properties in the US. He will have all his financial assets under US control frozen. He will have his passport revoked due being a flight risk. He will spend time under house arrest. Likely the remainder of his life. He will lose Secret Service protection. He will be denied licensing by the FTC for a media (news channel) outlet platform. He will be considered the worst President of the United States by historians. He will play the victim the remainder of his life. All the while denying he victimized people all his life and can be directly attributed to millions of deaths worldwide and likely over half of one million US citizens. If Americans have learn anything about how our Democracy should be conducted and represented, Trump will... Make America Great Again.
    1 point
  21. Some of us were paying attention...
    1 point
  22. Happy new year all! And let's hope 2021 will be better than 2020...
    1 point
  23. Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
    1 point
  24. I am referring to the original press release and FAQs from 2016, when SSG was created. I seem to be wrong about it being employee-owned (but I clearly remember this being discussed somewhere). https://www.lotro.com/en/game/articles/standing-stone-games-–-message-rob-ciccolini and https://www.lotro.com/en/game/articles/standing-stone-games-transition-faq
    1 point
  25. Save it from what? The site never mentions it being destroyed.
    1 point
  26. Actually, Turbine was not sold to DBG - Turbine remained a part of WB, which also kept Asheron's Call, although the company was at the time fully integrated into WB and became WB Games. In the same press release, it was said that SSG was an employee-owned company, with DBG as its publisher. However, because neither SSG nor DBG are publicly traded, the exact details of their relationship has never been disclosed (until now). It is now clear that DBG owns SSG. If there are truly 41K subscribers (not including lifers), their revenues would be on the order of 5.5 million for the 3 quarters. That would mean they generated around 4.4 million from the store. Overall, though, it seems the game is surprisingly healthy. Projecting out to the end of the year, the revenue from subscribers would be around 7.3 million and from the stores would be around 1..5 million - for a total of 13.2 million. BTW, the numbers do not include any revenue from the War of the Three Peaks mini-xpac, since it was released in October.
    1 point
  27. ..... SSG was already owned by Daybreak. SSG didn't want to admit it to its playerbase, lest it dampens spending. Daybreak was therefore called 'publisher'. Now Daybreak is sold and Severlin writes the above... no.... you are a piece of carrot in the soup that is called Daybreak which is being eaten by EG7. Face it.
    1 point
  28. Looks like LOTRO may be getting a console conversion Some links to some interesting info: https://tagn.wordpress.com/2020/12/02/daybreak-revealed-in-enad-global-7-presentation/ https://massivelyop.com/2020/12/02/everything-we-just-learned-about-daybreak-thanks-to-eg7/ Also, here's the investor presentation PDF from EG7. It's odd the way the information tap has just been turned on, as we move from a privately held company, Daybreak, to a European public firm, EG7. EG7-Investor-Presentation-Dec-2020-Acquires-Daybreak-Games.pdf
    1 point
  29. https://www.enadglobal7.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/EG7-Investor-Presentation-Dec-2020-Acquires-Daybreak-Games.pdf Interesting to see official numbers about Lotro. Total users: 108K Users with VIP (monthly membership): 41K
    1 point
  30. Yeah, but no. The fine print actually means that half of that money goes to an actual "defense fund" after the legal limit of $5000 to the turd campaign and $35.500 to the RNC is paid. It's a money grab. It was actually not "not right" when Obama did it. Obama had McTurtle who stonewalled every. single. bill. He still does. Congress is broken. McTurtle broke it. Harry Reid started down that path I'll admit that, but McTurtle took Reid's path and amped it up to over 9000. The fact of the matter is that the Democrats and non-Republican leaning population are in the majority in the US. The Electoral Collage system ensures that a minority rule is possible. As such, the GOP has power, far more than it deserves based on the popular vote. So when a President like Obama is faced with a Senate that stonewalls everything, one has to force policy by executive order. You could argue that Turd also had that right when the House flipped in 2018, but even when Turd had the House and the Senate, the GOP was unable to accomplish anything. Sure, they had their tax cut to benefit the rich, but for fucks sake, they wanted to replace the ACA with something more suiting their demented vision. They could have written up anything. They didn't, because even the most ardent Turd supporter knew that if they actually replaced the ACA, they would hurt their constituents. Two years they had to do so, they announced plans before day one. They are still talking about Turd's plan for replacing it. Ruling as President by executive order is not something that should be done. But in the face of a Congress that stonewalls, like McTurtle's plan has been for the past 10 years.. it can be needed.
    1 point
  31. They gutted the Voting Rights Act, purged voter rolls, closed polling places, removed ballot drop boxes, fucked with the Postal Service, attacked voting by mail, and ignored a pandemic...all to try to keep their Dear Leader in office...and they STILL lost. Also...refuse to let states count mail/absentee votes early to speed up the process...then cry that the changing vote totals mean FRAUD ON A SCALE WE'VE NEVER SEEN BEFORE!1!!!! Fucking fucks.
    1 point
  32. To me the meaning of a moderate, centralist means being able to pick and choose sensible positions from the political spectrum. If they reside outside of the center as long as they provide positive outcomes the majority of the people can benefit from is fair game. With that said, free education and healthcare are within that meaning. Just because they are social programs doesn't meaning they are leading the way to socialism. I find it funny when people make opposition to those two ideas, but at the same time don't consider bailing out banks and business sectors socialism. Also the same people expect to collect social security which is a subsidized social program. Go figure. Having long term fully funded social programs doesn't make the US a socialist country. I don't prefer Biden takes us back to the America we had before Trump. The US needs to move beyond that. Without the US Senate working with Biden we just get the old same old plus Trump's debt.
    1 point
  33. I know, I know, nobody wants those nasty social programs that benefit the people at large. No to universal healthcare, no to college tuition, no, no, no. "But how are we going to pay for it?!" We can't pay for anything NOW. We're running a multi-trillion dollar deficit. If we're broke I'd sure as shit prefer that the money we say we have goes to helping people instead of buying another jet. We pay taxes and our roads suck, our education sucks, our healthcare sucks, too many people are living in poverty. Where is all my tax money going? Maybe they're spending it on hookers and blow. I have no idea, but it certainly isn't going to make the country better. Out of curiosity, but what do you consider a "strong" mandate? As far as I'm concerned winning the popular vote by 4.2 million is a pretty strong mandate. 2. the authority to carry out a policy or course of action, regarded as given by the electorate to a candidate or party that is victorious in an election. The electorate, not the ELECTED.
    1 point
  34. President-elect Biden gave a very good victory speech tonight. His confidence seemed overwhelmingly evident. He covered nearly every concern an American might have if not all of them. Tonight's speech might be the best I've heard from any politician in more than 20 years.
    1 point
  35. Some people just can't figure it out. https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthread.php?684237-New-p2w-relics-garbage-loot-progression The LotRO treadmill spins the wheel of insanity.
    1 point
  36. Therefore Mordor was the last thing I bought.
    1 point
  37. I had a quick look over some of the complaints over there and I'm amazed how far these idiots have to go to seeing what LotRO really is. They're complaining about costs or lack of content, but in the same breath praising the developers for all their "amazing work". You mean that amazing work you're complaining about them not providing? The constantly bugged content? The abandoned features? The "kill x of y" quests copy and pasted? The lazy re-skinning of cosmetics? That's what the devs have been making. What imaginary world are they living in where there's a parallel LotRO with incredible content, when the complaints are about how bad the monetisation for barely any reward has gotten?
    1 point
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