US Elections 2020 in General Banter Posted January 28 · Report reply 38 minutes ago, LasraelLarson said: nice addition in red, not reality... well unless you belief Adam Schiffs lip read version... but clearly showing the jade by its inclusion. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XDCKRpLk4E Right. Now also watch the Democratic counsel's questioning. But yes really, Trump illegally held funds approved by Congress. Whatever the reason might have been, it was an illegal hold. He does not have that power. 38 minutes ago, LasraelLarson said: completely ignoring the prosecutors investigation of Burisma, or the glaringly obvious nepotism, in Joe's son receiving a position with sizable compensation. remind me again what Biden Juniors experience was with an energy exploration/production holding company? or what the reason was for dismissing the prosecutor as condition to receiving aid? Not ignoring the investigation into Bursima, which was opened by a previous prosecutor general in the Ukraine. Shokin (the one that was dismissed after pressure from the US, EU and various financial institutions) however let that investigation die off. He was accused by many, both internally in the Ukraine and abroad, of protecting big business interests and the political elite, a theme common in former Soviet countries. That is why he was dismissed. As for Hunter Biden's qualifications to be on the board of a gas company... He's a lawyer, so in terms of expertise in the day to day business of an oil/gas company he has no qualifications. However, that's not what a board of directors is for. They are there to oversee the daily management, the CEO, the CFO, the COO. Look at any big corporation in the world, you'll see lawyers, politicians, former government officials. Yes, they are recruited for status. A former treasury secretary here, a former senator there, a public figure here, someone related to a public figure (or even carrying the same name) there. It's a PR thing. They need to be just smart enough to not dive the company off a cliff, the rest is status. But hey, if you think that there was corruption there, by all means, investigate. Have the Senate or House investigate. Have Ukraine investigate. Whataboutism however is no defense against Trump's actions. Next the Trump team is going to bring up Hillary's emails in the proceedings again even though that has been debunked about 5 times now by various branches of government.. I mean jeesh.. Stick to the facts please. Investigate Hunter Biden and Joe Biden all you want. Call them as witnesses if you want. Just not in the impeachment trial, because that is not, will not ever be, about any of the Bidens. Nepotism is not something that can even remotely be brought up in defense of Trump (and "yeah but look what that other person did" is NEVER a valid legal defense). For pete's sake, he rammed through security clearances for the only woman he ever loved (Ivanka), not to mention Jared, who was blackballed by several security clearances. I mean really, if you want to bring up Hunter Biden's qualifications for being on the board of a company, can we then also discuss a failed real estate heir's qualifications to "fix the Middle East", "reform the criminal justice system", "make a trade deal with China" and let's not forget "build the wall". I mean really... The Israel/Palestine conflict is something that's been dragging on for decades, with people deeply involved and knowledgable have spent decades on trying to broker some form of peace, and you expect Ivanka's toyboy with 0 knowledge of the region, 0 knowledge of foreign policy to actually get a peace agreement? Come on. My personal opinion of Joe Biden: he's a bit of an oaf. A loveable oaf at that. Doesn't strike me as the type that can fix the US, so I hope he doesn't get the Democratic ticket.