FundinStrongarm

The POTUS is not the sole arbitrator of foreign policy. He takes the lead, sure, but Congress has various roles to play as well.

lol. Pushing into the single digits on the level of maturity of these 'come backs'. Time to close this thing, imo.

Sometimes the intelligence community knows what they're talking about. Always good to wait a couple days after an incident to see what shakes out. That window had passed when we heard what intelligence community said.

Ah, that's a big no on that. Iranian hands 100%. Sure, a mistake but still on their hands. Edit: Someone was going to off the leading terrorist scumbag at some point. Should have been done over a decade ago. Should have been put to bed 40 years ago. It was Iran that ordered the plan to shoot down that plane taking off from their own capital. There wasn't a flotilla of US Air Force planes bombing them at the time to cause confusion. 100% on them.

Trump can be a moron and make stupid statements (about destroying cultural sites) AND it can be realized that the Iranian General needed to be killed a loooong time ago. Both are true, imo.

You're arguing with a guy who thinks Trump's call to Zelensky was simply a distraction so some judges could get confirmed 5 months later. How far do you think you're going to get trying to convince him of anything?

It's grand fun to think that the call to Zelensky in July was planned so that Trump would be impeached in December as a distraction for sneaking in judge appointments in the meantime. (Perhaps the whistleblower was a plant or, maybe, a gullible stooge?) I find it truly interesting that this kind of thing even crosses someone's mind.

The implication that Trump is a grand master of 5 dimensional chess is one of the most fascinating aspects of those who like him because he pisses off the people they hate. It's very strange.

Exactly.

Trump would totally Colonel Jesop during the impeachment trial in the Senate. (Reference to A Few Good Men.) The question is, is it okay to ask foreign governments to dig up dirt on your domestic political rivals? And to push them to do it by withholding Congressionally approved funds? The evidence points to the course of action by the administration being consistent with seeking dirt on Biden (it's right in the summary of the call, after all) and withholding funds. Heck, Trump even called on China to dig up dirt during the days after the whistleblower's complaint surfaced. Republican goalposts keep getting run over faster than they can move them on various spurious defenses. Sad, really, that a once good party has sold their soul for a demagogue who totally trashes what the party stood for. Trump is the ultimate RINO.

The other thing you have to keep in mind is that if you can't laugh off what Trump is doing most of the time (as most of his antics are quite literally Trump trolling), he's going to drive you mad because you're likely too thin skinned to laugh it off - which is why I'm not overly bothered by his Twitter account. IMO he's done good enough (overall) that I'm not going to feel bad about voting for him again. Trump causing people to lose their shit is just icing on the cake 😃 Trolling? The President being a troll is the excuse for his Twitter idiocy now? Like his fawning praise of Erdogan? Is that a troll or what he really thinks or are we supposed to laugh it off? Or, maybe each tweet is a toss up. I'd rather go with Occam's Razor and recognize he's a narcissist with very thin skin and leave it at that.

Huh? I'm talking about your specific reference that you like Trump because he pisses off the people you think have it coming. What's that got to do with some of your posts? I don't think Republicans are all evil. I would have been one for the last 25+ years had I lived in the US. I just think it's sad how much they have to twist themselves into knots trying to justify the 14-year-old in the oval office. It's sad how they are still fighting about the whistleblower when there's now about half-a-dozen witnesses who have corroborated the quid pro quo over Ukraine. Anyways, carry on.

So, not so much a refutation of what I said - just "Dems are bad too". Need a more grown-up response, imo, than my dad can beat up your dad. On the other hand, that's about Trump's level so not surprising.

The other thing I rather like about Trump is that he pisses off a bunch of the Democrats as they've had that coming for almost 30 years, For all too many Trump supporters it boils down to that. No principles (since Trump has none) and no vision (he has none of that either). Just "hey, his lies piss off the people I hate". It is sad.

I'm reasonably sure that license and content -wise, this is all under the umbrella of MEE. Tolkien Estate not really in picture, afaik. Meh - could be wrong.