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  1. Deaths are doubling at the same rate, too, which means potentially a million deaths by the end of this month assuming the infection rate doesn't slow. If Germany's figures are to be believed, then they are the country the world needs to imitate in terms of reducing fatalities. 85,000 infected but 1,107 deaths. They failed miserably at containing the virus, but they're at least managing to get people through having it. Meanwhile France has only been including hospitalised deaths in its figures, which means it could even surpass Italy's death rate. And this is why I've been saying lockdowns are dangerous solutions to this pandemic. So many people now are being hit by unnecessary lockdowns when it should've always been lockdowns for the vulnerable (sick/elderly). I've got a few mates back home who are now unable to work despite being fit and healthy. Two are self-employed but don't fit the government's criteria for help, while the other two worked for a company that's going belly up already and even the stupid 80% government salary thing won't help it. They're just lucky they have savings behind them, unlike these companies that make a killing for their management but can't handle a rocky few months. It should be fucking illegal.
  2. Nope, I know nobody. I've had about a dozen say things like "well I was feeling a rough a little while ago", and even I got hit hard with flu at the start of the year that was worse than any other flu I've had, but that seems to be it. Nothing but speculation and stories and no actual confirmation, I guess because nobody really wants to waste time getting tested if they experience non-apocalyptic symptoms.
  3. Read your own line again. Slowly. Even slower than normal. See the bit about people in this thread? That's the bit where you're talking absolute shit yet again. Nobody has said any of what you were pissing about, yet you still tried to suggest any of us align ourselves with it. That TDS you constantly bring up is your own Trump Dependency Syndrome kicking in. Back on to actually important issues; Europe hits 30,000 deaths, with two thirds in Spain and Italy alone. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-52117883 There's been stories in Spain of retirement and care homes for the elderly being abandoned by workers for fear of contracting the virus themselves, as well as authorities struggling to adequately store the rising number of bodies. With funerals in a lot of countries now being limited to less than a dozen attendees allowed, these deaths come with the added pain for families of not even being able to be there to bury or cremate the people they've lost.
  4. Cool, let me know when the results are in. Ok. Yeah, in a country over over a billion people, the guys who were doing mask production are the same guys who were doing the clinical trial. They've been busy little bees.
  5. You've literally got no clinical trials to back up your position, and the only one available (which I posted) disproves it. Yet you think it's me with his head in the sand? Don't get me wrong, I'd love for a solution to this virus that's already available. However, there's just no evidence. I'm not gullible enough to buy unverified claims, and I'm certainly not going to trust the gut feeling of Trump of all people. If actual clinical trials show it helps, even for some segments of the population, then great. Until then, you're falling for clickbait and unproven claims.
  6. You're trying to back up your claim using the French "results" that claim the drug actually reduces recovery time, which is nothing to do with improving conditions until the natural recovery occurs. Currently no evidence to make such a claim in the context of this virus. The French "results" weren't a clinical trial, which is another part of the clickbait you've fallen for. People are recommending anything right now when it comes to life or death situations. If someone is going to die, they're willing to try anything based on results from other diseases. But none of it is based on confirmed results. Which aren't COVID-19. Some drugs help for some diseases, but can exacerbate others. The current data is far too low to say hydroxybloxyclororhrorowhatever is an effective treatment for this.
  7. Two things: 1. You're confusing potential management of symptoms with a cure. Paracetamol is as much of a treatment and even those sorts of drugs also have their concerns. 2. The only supposed clinical trial has shown no effect. As someone who has repeatedly claimed concern over unforeseen long-term effects of the virus, you should be applying the same suspicion to any claims of an untested, unverified cure.
  8. No, quite obviously I asked if you can find anyone here that agreed with the media that Trump shouldn't call it the China virus. You know, that thing you claimed despite the lack of any evidence to support it. In the very last line in your post where you tried to shove 4 failed points in your own imagination on the rest of us here.
  9. Can you find anyone in this thread who agreed with the media on this? He wasn't too slow, and nobody has said that here. It's the domestic spread he's fucked up. Testing alone =/= preventing spread. Where has anyone here said that?
  10. For what? You're the one making the claim of Trump's success. Try it. Leave that sort of shit between you and your orange master, little bitch. Except there's currently no evidence to make such a claim. Even Fauci, a man on Trump's own task force, admitted it. Don't be so gullible just because Trump has said something.
  11. Oh yeah, that's the lynchpin in everything, obviously. /sarc You mean Cuomo is having to suck up after Trump openly said he would only help governors who would stop criticising him. Little Donnie's ego needed to be massaged or he was going throw a tantrum fatal to a lot of New Yorkers. And yet the spread hasn't slowed. So that extra time to prepare apparently meant nothing. Nope, look up what actually happened and the details involved. You've fallen for clickbait. Well yeah, the virus did exist last year. November, remember? But no, I'm acting like the virus was a concern since the beginning of this year. Plenty of time to have converted over before now. Sorry if something like that seems so complex to you that you think months are needed. Ha, you keep telling yourself that. For irrelevant bullshit, yeah. Again, speculation of private companies filling needed roles in response to government incompetence, not really a mark for Trump's scoreboard that you're tracking. Ah so because Trump's been pretty useless himself, but he's previously praised privatisation, that means he should get that "credit" for when companies do something good. If only Tokyo hadn't delayed the Olympics, you could've entered mentally for gymnastics. And yet you did it again.
  12. Neither was I. It might have escaped your notice, but Republicans basically run things in the US right now. They're the ones with the power in this crisis, and yet you keep trying to point at petty Democrat shit as if that absolves Trump's failures. Nope, I'm saying Federal power is being requested to help State power, and Trump is delaying, refusing, or doubting the necessity of such help. You want to act like Federal power has 0% responsibility, go ahead. It clearly was, look at the infection rate in the US. The taskforce is a laughable joke when they've had 2 months to prep but still ended up here. International travel bans work on preventing spread to the country. It does nothing to prevent the internal spread. See how it's the latter the US is struggling with? Don't project so much. Or maybe projection is a secondary symptom of the virus? After all, we just don't know. It's a complete mystery. A drug for a different disease that has no evidence as treatment for COVID-19, that's Trump's doing is it? Or are we now including his snake-oil speculation to bulk out the otherwise gaunt list of Trump's successes in this outbreak? Something they needed earlier, but well done to those private companies for stepping up. Not Trump's doing, though. List it then. It's either verifiable, or it's in your own biased head. Even I could mentioned 2 or 3 points, let's see if you can. That'll be useful, but again private companies stepping up to help an incompetent government led by an egotistical liar isn't exactly one for the list of Trump successes. Trump's contribution to fighting the pandemic: a currently non-existent but hopeful possibility of more private companies helping out in the future. I sure was wrong! Let me know when he actually starts doing so. Like you being unable to argue your point and throwing in half a dozen irrelevant videos and images to hide behind while ranting about imaginary lefties. Change the tune.
  13. Stop deflecting, nobody gives a shit what some out-of-power Democrats have or haven't done. What is it you think Trump has done that's helped?
  14. I bet you wrote these in the same post without any hint of irony. Still waiting on what he's apparently done, despite sky-rocketing infection rates. Proceeds to stamp feet about who should get credit. It's weird that you support Trump while also denouncing him with shit like this. I guess that's the idiot far-right for you.
  15. You're right. Silly me. People dying doesn't matter any more, only Trump getting credit does because that's in the US constitution. Again, you're right. Trump has no power in this situation, nobody should expect anything from him. Three for three! That list of all that he's done that you've provided was fascinating and completely undercuts that the US has the fastest growing infected population in the world. Sarcastic? Who, me?
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