A question to those that still raid in LOTRO in General Discussion Posted April 13, 2012 · Report reply Getting back to the rather more interesting discussion about Orthanc... This is definitely the hardest raiding sequence in the game. I don't particularly mind that, as it makes for an interesting challenge, and it's inevitably one that will only be met by a handful of kinships. The main problem to my mind is that it's extremely unbalanced. Firstly, the gap between T1 and T2, and T2 and Challenge mode, is wildly disproportionate; I don't think making T2 more than twice as hard as T1 (in some cases) was a good design decision, as it definitely tends to discourage players. Secondly, and perhaps more seriously, the different wings are also badly unbalanced, with some being very much harder than others. Furthermore, the fact that several months after the raid was released, Saruman T2C and Fire & Frost T2C have still not been cracked on any server, is nothing for the designers to be proud of. And as many people have noted, F&F in challenge mode is effectively impossible: it requires maximised DPS, maximised healing and maximised mitigations, all at the same time, which is clearly impossible. At the moment, my kinship runs weekly T1 raids, largely farming Saruman for the clasp, and bi-weekly T2 raids, painfully trying to make our way through the series (one down, one half-way there...). Not brilliant, but not too bad for a non-hardcore kin faced with a diabolically difficult and still only half-baked challenge.