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Did the Dev's drop any interesting info?

 

It was just Sapience.

 

No new traditional instances and raids are being planned at this time.

 

Update 12.2 may be on Bullroarer next week. The developers have made some changes that should help alleviate the skill macroing issue in PvMP. Some changes in balance (including landscape mob difficulty) will need to be tested. This update is not expected to have as many changes as update 12.1, although they may have a broader impact.

 

A revamped SoA region is a possibility to include in one of the updates in 2014, although no region has been picked yet.

 

We should not expect housing to expand to other regions (e.g., Rohan) any time soon. The team wants to focus on improvements to the existing systems. If any discussions about housing happened in 2013, it seems like they're starting over completely in 2014 in deciding what's desirable and what's possible.

 

No changes to basic kinship functionality are planned for now. It's possible there may be some incidental changes to kinships when changes to housing are made.

 

Some devs have expressed interest in being on future livestreams. The most enthusiastic among them so far are jwbarry, RockX, and Jinjaah. Sapience may also just grab random people to chat.

 

Turbine employees enjoy free VIP subscriptions for the duration of their employment, and also receive a small quarterly stipend of Turbine Points.

 

Changing the "Recommended World" in the launcher is usually done during a maintenance period, because additional login server hardware is dedicated to that world. The next "Recommended World" for new English-language players is likely to be Gilrain, later this month.

 

Turbine will never release official player population or participation numbers. "Unless we can say we have 10 million players and are bigger than WoW, what's the point?"

 

The art department is shared across LOTRO, DDO, AC, and IC. LOTRO may have as few as 6 or 7 artists dedicated at one time, or as many as 15 to 20. Several other teams at Turbine work this way.

 

Sapience is unaware of any plans to add more content specifically related to the Hobbit films. In his opinion, the game is primarily about Tolkien's Lord of the Rings trilogy.

 

"There are absolutely no plans to merge any servers."

 

A "fairly significant technical issue" prevents players from transferring between original Turbine and former Codemasters servers. It is unlikely this issue will ever be overcome.

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Clearly you soloed the trolls, you griefer, since you were probably the only one from these forums logged into Gilrain for the event.

 

I was actually shadowing Sapience pretty much all the time, because it was very easy to get separated from the main zerg.

 

I think Fred has nailed it. Overall this event wasn't exactly great viewing but if Turbine were prepared to do something a little more creative then people do seem happy to log in and pitch in.

 

However, the biggest issue is the lag which was insane at some points, stopping onscreen activity for several minutes at a time.

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So for anyone new, it will show off the lag in Lotro. I bet Sapience is wondering now how not to do that.  

 

It is funny that the people who hate these forums will blame us in chat and end up telling more people about these forums. I can't believe anyone here would be the briefer, but congrats to whoever did it (despite the incredible pain they caused to all those players).

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However, the biggest issue is the lag which was insane at some points, stopping onscreen activity for several minutes at a time.

 

But, but....there is no lag in LOTRO. Lag only happens to players with bad/old computers. And besides, Turbine fixed that (non-existent) lag just recently....right?  girl_wink.gif

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The lag was horrid and the crowd actually got split into multi layers, so most didn't even get to be part of the group that 'really' accompanied RH:

 

'The lag was horrible. As a native Gilrainian, I've never seen lag like this before. A level 10 died before my eyes in trollshaws even though my PS was on the mob long before it hit him. I was just running in the same place. The multi layers were a nightmare also. Had to go in a map in front of the main group several times to be able to be in the same layer. The only ones that actually took Sap to Isen, were the people in his raid group. Everyone else was hitting mobs in different layers or in extremely low priority.

I think it is too late now, but I think that you must change the rules in future events. Let it be about how many 10lvls we manage to get to Isengard. Imagine, several groups starting in 5 min intervals, each guarding a 10lvl. If you want to make this a cross server event, you can even require that the 10lvl toons have no other alts it that server. A few days preparation so that people can roll new alts and find groups to escort them and we are good to go.

Server populations can get even if we actually compare the percentage of groups started, with the groups that they delivered their low levels.'

 

https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthread.php?537901-Take-the-Hobbits-to-Isengard!&p=7069129#post7069129

 

 

And apparently there are slews of folks rolling a level 10 to be part of it.

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I checked out the last page of the thread that Tarantula linked, and found Lohi claiming that Shield Wall slows down the players.

 

Que?  I don't recall that happening with Shield Wall before - is this new, or is he misinformed?

 

Edit to add: someone later added that the slow effect was removed in HD.  I still don't recall a slow effect, so...

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I checked out the last page of the thread that Tarantula linked, and found Lohi claiming that Shield Wall slows down the players.

 

Que?  I don't recall that happening with Shield Wall before - is this new, or is he misinformed?

 

Edit to add: someone later added that the slow effect was removed in HD.  I still don't recall a slow effect, so...

 

The effect was to the guardian and slowed the guardian down 10% while Shield Wall was active on another player.

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The effect was to the guardian and slowed the guardian down 10% while Shield Wall was active on another player.

 

Ah - I had no idea, thank you. :)

 

I never had a Guardian higher than level 20ish, and my only experiences with Shield Wall were either a Guardian using it on me during a PvE raid against a relatively immobile boss, or seeing Guardians on follow on Minstrels/RKs in the Moors. :P

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Now when it was established that the trolls had been killed in advance, as you can imagine there was mixed reaction in OOC. Let is suffice to say that it didn't take long for the finger of blame to be pointed at these forums.

Called it! :P

Even when it was just a couple dozen players at the beginning walking along safe roads, the movement lag, rubberbanding, and low framerate were frankly embarrassing. There was also a client crash about midway.

So this was visible on his stream?

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Taking the Hobbits to Isengard took place on Gilrain tonight. So I tagged along as i thought there may be a blog post in it.

 

It went pretty well although there was chronic lag and rubber banding.

 

As the main zerg escorting Sapience approached Grimbold's camp, some "individuals" went ahead of the main group and killed the trolls, outside Isengard.

 

This impacted on the criteria set out for the event to be completed and resulted in the zerg (which was very large) waiting for the trolls to respawn.

 

Eventually it was decided not to worry about waiting for the respawn and it looks like this requirement will be removed from future runs, as it is too much of an invitation for griefers.

 

Now when it was established that the trolls had been killed in advance, as you can imagine there was mixed reaction in OOC. Let is suffice to say that it didn't take long for the finger of blame to be pointed at these forums.

 

Irrespective of this particular incident, what it has proven is that if Turbine regularly host event on servers they will certainly get  large turn out of players. Shame this sort of thing wasn't done more often in the recent years.

Odd, one would think they would point the finger at someone from that server.  Go figure.

 

It is a shame, indeed, they did not do things like this years ago.  It's more of a shame the servers/engine can't support activities like this.

 

Amusing, there are people planning to level multiple characters on other servers to take part in those events on other servers from their own.  Seems to me that rather defeats the purpose of doing one for each server.  People on those servers are going to get pushed out.

 

When was the last time they did a dynamic, live event like this?

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Odd, one would think they would point the finger at someone from that server.  Go figure.

 

It is a shame, indeed, they did not do things like this years ago.  It's more of a shame the servers/engine can't support activities like this.

 

Amusing, there are people planning to level multiple characters on other servers to take part in those events on other servers from their own.  Seems to me that rather defeats the purpose of doing one for each server.  People on those servers are going to get pushed out.

 

When was the last time they did a dynamic, live event like this?

 

The Amarthiel attacks prior to Moria's launch, perhaps, albeit minus the streaming?

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Called it! :P

So this was visible on his stream?

 

Yes it was on the stream. I do not have characters on Gilrain so I was unable to experience it first-hand. The movement lag and rubberbanding were quite obvious. At one point, a character jumped and was stuck kicking his legs in midair for about 20 seconds. When Sapience had another player on /follow, his hobbit would occasionally pop up all over the screen.

 

But this is stuff most LOTRO players are already familiar with. It didn't seem to dampen anyone's spirits.

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Doesn't it depend of if players in the game are actually effected? For example, if during a hobbit walk, you posted "Fred for Mayor" in the chat, or if you had your toon lying in the road, would that form of protest be actually bad?

I can't see how that would hurt anyone in game.

I wouldn't consider posting that in chat - assuming it isn't spammed - a protest at all. The protests I saw in WoW crashed servers, or otherwise made the server unplayable. Those were protests, and while they did bring attention to the issue, the affected players were now against the protest, and Blizzard was, too.
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So this is the LotRO endgame?  Watching Sapience play a Level 10 Hunter that's on follow?

 

I have to admit, I never imagined they could come up with something worse than Hytbold, but along came Epic Battles.

 

And now this.

 

I was online when Hadacar showed up on Nimrodel. It was sickening watching everyone in glff turn into a sapience fanboi. Only good that came of it was that one of the biggest asshats on the server got a 24 hour ban for his surname.

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If I could get LOTRO to load, I would happily travel along with Sapience...I think both my burg and hunter were at 75.  I could skip along talking about bacon and waffles to keep him entertained.   :D

 

Of course, if he played GW2 he could do this on any server he chose and anyone who chose could accompany him without having to create a platoon of alts for each server.

 

;)

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Something has just occurred - all of the news Turbine have been releasing since Helm's Deep has been in the negative. As in all the things that they are NOT going to do during the next 12 months and beyond. No instances, no housing revamp, no this and no that. It's a long list, and doesn't leave them a lot of places to go regarding what they ARE going to do.

 

I'm wondering what they're going to put in these "more regular updates" considering the amount of stuff they've already ruled out.

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Something has just occurred - all of the news Turbine have been releasing since Helm's Deep has been in the negative. As in all the things that they are NOT going to do during the next 12 months and beyond. No instances, no housing revamp, no this and no that. It's a long list, and doesn't leave them a lot of places to go regarding what they ARE going to do.

 

I'm wondering what they're going to put in these "more regular updates" considering the amount of stuff they've already ruled out.

 

It's easy for Turbine to say exactly what they DON'T plan to do.

 

It's much harder to say what they DO plan, because they probably don't know how much they'll actually be able to accomplish yet with the reduced dev team. I doubt we will hear much about any of the updates until a couple weeks or maybe a month before it's released.

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But they are going to do something special, and they are going to further recognize VIPs. Sometime in 2014. Like the way they addressed housing in 2013 to great fanfare. Oh wait...

 

My reading is they are seriously bleeding and don't have any red potions. I think they have blown through budget into the future, and general operating revenue is moving to cover it. WBI has several studios, at least one with experience handling the Tolkien IP, and almost all of them covering batman generation xxxxx. With only one on the east coast in the region with the highest labor costs in the country.

 

The only discussions I can imagine going around WBI is what is salvageable now and what is best left on the floor.

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