mtones 46 Posted January 12, 2015 Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 I have the PS4 version and know someone with the PS3 version. As for crafting make sure you do the Acquire the Arcanist mission as soon as you get to Skyhold as this gives you access to the mastercraft weapons and armour. It is an instant complete mission that adds a npc to the crafting area Cossieuk, have you managed to make any masterwork gear crit yet? i am not clear on the crit RNG here. I have attempted nigh 50 different times to get a crit and not once has it happened. Seem to just be wasting a lot of material. It is nice to get the stat bonus of whatever mat I have used but I was aiming for the critical success bonus of +10 to all stats... I even used dragon bone and zip. Am I missing something? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Laurinaohtar 133 Posted January 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 crafting can crit?! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mtones 46 Posted January 12, 2015 Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 crafting can crit?! Hehe. Exactly.... But yes, the masterwork schematics allow you to add a bonus effect to your armor or weapons depending on what type of masterwork stone or material you add to the panel, or you can try to get a crit which will add +10 to all stats. The mats for this tell you what chances you have, bear claws say 30% chance, dragon bone is 40% and so on. I just have yet to get it to crit for me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Laurinaohtar 133 Posted January 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 I just have yet to get it to crit for me. Same here, either its broken or I've just been very unlucky. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Trilwych 279 Posted January 12, 2015 Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 Ohhhhh noooo, crit crafting RNG angst. Who wants to deal with that! LotRO-style guild membership benefits, plx. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jedy2 30 Posted January 12, 2015 Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 Same here, either its broken or I've just been very unlucky. F5 and F9 are your friends. The RNG is such that I've ALWAYS critted at the second attempt, but why waste valuable resources if you can F9 ... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Trilwych 279 Posted January 12, 2015 Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 Well, there's that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cossieuk 209 Posted January 12, 2015 Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 I have had 1 crit, but I dont bother trying much as there are better things to use, like the fade items that generate 3 or 5 guard on hit. They make you nigh impossible to kill Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spidey 123 Posted January 12, 2015 Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 Ohhhhh noooo, crit crafting RNG angst. Who wants to deal with that! LotRO-style guild membership benefits, plx. I prefer ESO style, I didn't have to wait a week for cooldown. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Trilwych 279 Posted January 12, 2015 Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 I haven't met a crafting system I liked 100%. But I must say, the WoW-style RNG-based crafting skill gain in Rift pisses me off as it did in WoW. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spidey 123 Posted January 12, 2015 Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 That's why I liked ESO's crafting there is no RNG, just use more mats. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jedy2 30 Posted January 12, 2015 Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 I have had 1 crit, but I dont bother trying much as there are better things to use, like the fade items that generate 3 or 5 guard on hit. They make you nigh impossible to kill Yes, but I like big numbers on my ... sword.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
androclese 83 Posted January 23, 2015 Report Share Posted January 23, 2015 I haven't met a crafting system I liked 100%. But I must say, the WoW-style RNG-based crafting skill gain in Rift pisses me off as it did in WoW. Did you ever play Star Wars Galaxies? Now what was an awesome crafting system, the resources all had stats and they randomly spawned for various amounts of time with different stats, when you craft each item uses different stats and different stat weights to produce different quality items, it was really complicated because an item could have what looks like awesome stats but be really bad for something because you had to weight the percentage of the stat on that resource against the percentage of the same stat or a different stat on another resource meaning you could actually have that stat too high thus ruining the craft, and to make it even more fun most items were made of crafted components that, you got it, needed certain weights of stats for the final product, it was a game of high end mathematics to craft the best items, I loved it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Trilwych 279 Posted January 23, 2015 Report Share Posted January 23, 2015 androclese, that sounds awful on paper. But you're only talking about the end product? Maybe I'd find that fun. Still, the "you may or may not gain an experience point after making this, getting you closer to the next crafting level" RNG pissed me off, made no sense whatsoever. Crafting is one of those things that you're supposed to get better the more you practice. It's not like combat where variables in the environment, from your opponent, and combined with your own skill affect an outcome that can fail. So LotRO's craft leveling design was a relief from that. Now I'm back in it, uuugh. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mtones 46 Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 I actually like the crafting in ESO because it has some of the elements that you are describing. The mats in ESO offer different properties to the same item and depending on which mat you choose, and where it is placed in the crafting panel you can end up with a piece of armor that has a very different armor rating, stat, etc. from another piece you could craft with the same recipe. Same for weapons. It makes for more variety and way less boring than what I have seen in other games, since the item I make is something I have to think more about and not just nock off as a premade recipe with no options to make it have the stats I am looking for. I think it could be better still but on the whole I have enjoyed it a lot. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jedy2 30 Posted January 31, 2015 Report Share Posted January 31, 2015 Just letting off steam... No c-words AFAIK... First, a disclaimer. I have not finished the game, though I have multiple toons around level 20, having a blast comparable only to DAO. Also, Dwarves are not blind – remember my scathing reviews of DA2. DA Inquisition is a seriously good game, though the EA suits deserve a serious kick in the nuts. What those low-life scum did to me and many other, enthusiastic players is beyond the range of the imbecility scale. First – they force me to use a Spy-software called Origin, and register online. Usually I uninstall such shit ASAP, but my Elf-Slave likes to create new backgrounds for new toons in DA-Keep, so what the hell, I can live with that. Then they force me to read Polish mumbo-jumbo, thankfully keeping the spoken language English. I know you English natives take the variety of class and regional accents for granted, but trust me – not many languages have such rich deposits of linguistic fun. I've been playing RPG games in English for like 30 years and those motherfuckers force me to read imbecilic attempts at translation? It DOES ruin my immersion. Enough of that. I read about patches before installing any, so I stopped the installation of even the first one. A couple of months have gone by, and three (3!) patches later I decided to let the patching run. After all, why not? In the worst-case scenario, the game would be unplayable? You guessed right. First, that Origin-shit-thing asked me to agree to the deletion of my hard-disk saves, because they were incompatible with Cloud saves. Who the fuck told them that I agreed to store ANYTHING in their fucking cloud? The only other option was to replace the cloud saves with my disk saves. I agreed, regretting wholeheartedly not having named my toons FuckEA and FuckOrigin. After the conclusion of the patch process, the game promptly died. No amount of forum reading and rescue attempts were of any help. After taking stock of my options (Playing LOTRO? Vacuum cleaning the house?) I went to The Pirate Bay, downloaded Skidrow version of DAI, full-English. It's offline, but my collection of DA-Keep world states is sufficient. (And my saves were of course VERY safe...) Should my Elf-Slave want some more DA-Keep stuff – she can try installing Origin and its DAI version to her heart's delight. I swore many times never to spend a penny on EA games, and this time it's final. They crossed the line. As far as EA is concerned - I'll stick to Piracy from now on. AARGH! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mtones 46 Posted February 1, 2015 Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 For anyone interested, there is a free download going on atm for the tavern songs heard in the game - some of which are quite beautiful Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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