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Darmokk is volunteering as a mod - and I don't think anything he has done is really worth debating (for me at least). A few edits to one or two threads are not that important. He does a pretty good job - even if his cleaning up of threads (which almost never happens) could be annoying.

 

I do notice that the more extreme, graphic, and vulgar or porn-filled, a post is, the more chance it will be removed (maybe because someone asked Darmokk to remove it). It might be annoying some times, but the moderation here is not that bad.

 

I can't see Darmokk as having an agenda or censoring topics - it just doesn't happen. He mainly wants to keep some threads on topic - and his mod actions are rare.

Exactly. A volunteering mod should be following the rules, not making up his own ones. And they also need to disconnect themselves from being a poster and being a mod. Darmokk has failed to do so on numerous occasions, where he backs up his own opinion with threat of mod action. And he shouldn't be threatening people for posts that DO NOT break the rules. He is making up rules as he goes and threatening people with those. He's even gloating over warnings he's given to people, like a fucking child (the same with people who make a point of telling someone they've been put on ignore).

The moderation WASN'T that bad. Even in those few early days of Darmokk being a mod, it wasn't that bad. But then he let it go to his head. He hides posts without explanation, deletes posts that don't break the rules and infracts (given as 'warnings' here) people for daring to challenge him. Completely valid posts can be removed just because he disagrees with them, regardless of the rules. Which is probably the reason you think he doesn't get involved much: by hiding posts he hides his involvement.

And his censoring might be rare for you, but it isn't for me. Or for anyone else who he disagrees with on particular topics (note, he doesn't ever start hiding posts for other threads that go off on tangents unless it involves his personal bugbear of criticising the US). There are no rules against tangents or going off-topic, only those he's invented just to deal with posts he doesn't like. Just like Sapience, he manipulates the actual rules for his own purposes.

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Exactly. A volunteering mod should be following the rules, not making up his own ones. And they also need to disconnect themselves from being a poster and being a mod. Darmokk has failed to do so on numerous occasions, where he backs up his own opinion with threat of mod action. And he shouldn't be threatening people for posts that DO NOT break the rules. He is making up rules as he goes and threatening people with those. He's even gloating over warnings he's given to people, like a fucking child (the same with people who make a point of telling someone they've been put on ignore).

The moderation WASN'T that bad. Even in those few early days of Darmokk being a mod, it wasn't that bad. But then he let it go to his head. He hides posts without explanation, deletes posts that don't break the rules and infracts (given as 'warnings' here) people for daring to challenge him. Completely valid posts can be removed just because he disagrees with them, regardless of the rules. Which is probably the reason you think he doesn't get involved much: by hiding posts he hides his involvement.

And his censoring might be rare for you, but it isn't for me. Or for anyone else who he disagrees with on particular topics (note, he doesn't ever start hiding posts for other threads that go off on tangents unless it involves his personal bugbear of criticising the US). There are no rules against tangents or going off-topic, only those he's invented just to deal with posts he doesn't like. Just like Sapience, he manipulates the actual rules for his own purposes.

Reading this was worth taking you off ignore (if only momentarily).  You have waaay too much time on your hands if this is something that you are going to keep pushing at.  Maybe it's a sign you need to disconnect for a bit and take a break.  But hey, whatever gets you through the day.

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Reading this was worth taking you off ignore (if only momentarily).  You have waaay too much time on your hands if this is something that you are going to keep pushing at.  Maybe it's a sign you need to disconnect for a bit and take a break.  But hey, whatever gets you through the day.

Make sure I'm back on it. Can't be dealing with your stupid responses.

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lol...Doro you are a cliche.  Everything about your posts, your "I'm always right and you are always wrong" attitude, the way you resort to name calling at the drop of the hat, Your whole "raging against the man and the system" routine.  It's been done before and by a lot better than you.  Step back.  Disconnect.  

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lol...Doro you are a cliche.  Everything about your posts, your "I'm always right and you are always wrong" attitude, the way you resort to name calling at the drop of the hat, Your whole "raging against the man and the system" routine.  It's been done before and by a lot better than you.  Step back.  Disconnect.

Do I look like I give a fuck what you think? Put me back on ignore so we can go about our business.

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I like turtles

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMNry4PE93Y

*A post for the Serbia - 1914 thread*

Well they do say that necessity is the mother of invention. It's actually one of those things I've often wondered about Middle-earth... they had so many wars, but stayed so technologically stagnant for thousands of years. What's the deal with that?

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(Verse)
The sun's been shinin' down on the day and night
Gettin' away with murder, livin' a lucky life
All good things finally come to an end
Hit ya like a train if you try to pretend
Everybody knows that she broke your heart
Everybody knows that it's tearing you apart
The boat you've been sailin' on sprung a leak
You won't admit, but it's startin' to make you weep
 
(Chorus)
When you got nothing left to lose
Might sound good, but I'm not sure that's true
You carry the pain around and that's what sees you through
The different shades of blue
 
(Verse)
Tell by the way you hang your head
The way you cast your eyes and things you haven't said
You've got the past ten years written on your face
Your whole damn life's been one big race
Everybody goes there whether they want to or not
Everybody starts to hold on to what they've got
And start to settle in with the long haul
Real life ain't, oh, you can't have it all
 
(Chorus)
When you got nothing left to lose
Might sound good, but I'm not sure that's true
You carry the pain around and that's what sees you through
The different shades of blue
 
(Instrumental break)
 
(Chorus)
When you got nothing left to lose
Might sound good, but I'm not sure that's true
You carry the pain around and that's what sees you through
The different shades of blue

Just corrected some lyrics online.

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I like turtles

Turtles suck, unless the are adolescents that have went through some sort of transformation and have learned some sort of martial art.

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Turtles suck, unless the are adolescents that have went through some sort of transformation and have learned some sort of martial art.

 

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*posted from the Israel thread*

These so called Palestinians are the true masters of parasitic begging on a world wide scale...

So would any group of people in their position. We're talking about a technologically inferior group of people having their land given over to a people they don't like to begin with. Not only that, those 'invaders' also don't like the natives. The land they were given starts off small but it slowly expands. The 'borders' grow because the Jews at the borders push into Palestinian territory, claiming more land for themselves (look at what they're saying now about Palestinians within 3km of their own border needing to retreat further away). Now Israel controls the resources of that country, with superior technology, military and allies. What else could Palestinians do but beg for help when they are being actively pushed out of their homes against a force they can't fight and won't be happy till they are gone?

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*posted from the Israel thread*

So would any group of people in their position. We're talking about a technologically inferior group of people having their land given over to a people they don't like to begin with. Not only that, those 'invaders' also don't like the natives. The land they were given starts off small but it slowly expands. The 'borders' grow because the Jews at the borders push into Palestinian territory, claiming more land for themselves (look at what they're saying now about Palestinians within 3km of their own border needing to retreat further away). Now Israel controls the resources of that country, with superior technology, military and allies. What else could Palestinians do but beg for help when they are being actively pushed out of their homes against a force they can't fight and won't be happy till they are gone?

I'm not sure a Random Crap thread is a great idea. :P

 

They could make peace Doro.

Accept that the the Nakba was permanent and that the Right Of Return will NEVER happen and try to build rather than destroy.

But there are some who profit from their misery and want to see the status quo continue.

Israel has made and kept peace with Egypt and Jordan and has proven they make a better friend than an enemy.

Gradually the Muslims of the West Bank and Gaza will find themselves ever more marginalized as they pursue terror and unrealistic demands.

They need to face the fact they tried war and lost.

Accept the consequences and try to build on what they have or they will remain destitute and a pawn for other agendas.

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I'm not sure a Random Crap thread is a great idea. :P

 

They could make peace Doro.

Accept that the the Nakba was permanent and that the Right Of Return will NEVER happen and try to build rather than destroy.

But there are some who profit from their misery and want to see the status quo continue.

Israel has made and kept peace with Egypt and Jordan and has proven they make a better friend than an enemy.

Gradually the Muslims of the West Bank and Gaza will find themselves ever more marginalized as they pursue terror and unrealistic demands.

They need to face the fact they tried war and lost.

Accept the consequences and try to build on what they have or they will remain destitute and a pawn for other agendas.

Or both sides need to be educated on the situation. Israel believes it is some hard-done-by nation fighting for their own freedom, when that isn't the case. Palestine believes it is fighting a noble cause to claim its land back from invaders, when it's more they're fighting because that's what they've been convinced is right. When the truth is the only thing separating them is their choice of religion and the xenophobic people that lead them.

And we need this random crap thread, or this forum would devolve into anarchy with permanent derails and off-topic discussions! It's for the greater good, as decided by a single person with a penchant for abusing mod powers.

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I think this thread is a great idea. We can just ignore the cross-posting posts and in the meantime continue with random crap. :P There's been a few times I've seen something funny that I wanted to share, but didn't really have a place to put it, so thanks cossie for starting this. :)

So random crap!!

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And we need this random crap thread, or this forum would devolve into anarchy with permanent derails and off-topic discussions! It's for the greater good, as decided by a single person with a penchant for abusing mod powers.

Well I made basically the same reply that you quoted in two treads now and my fingers are hurting. :P

 

 

Or both sides need to be educated on the situation. Israel believes it is some hard-done-by nation fighting for their own freedom, when that isn't the case. Palestine believes it is fighting a noble cause to claim its land back from invaders, when it's more they're fighting because that's what they've been convinced is right. When the truth is the only thing separating them is their choice of religion and the xenophobic people that lead them.

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I disagree Doro.

The Jewish people haven't always found themselves in the enviable position of "bully" that they enjoy today and they will defend what they have.

They have more than paid their dues for a couple millennia and "never forget" isn't just a slogan for them even though they now fly in F16's.

 

Edit: Occurs to me that "isn't the case" might refer to the specific event of the UN creation of Israel in 1948?

If so you also have to consider the Zionist movement and the Balfour declaration and the many events that preceded the "Nation born in a day".

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I disagree Doro.

The Jewish people haven't always found themselves in the enviable position of "bully" that they enjoy today and they will defend what they have.

They have more than paid their dues for a couple millennia and "never forget" isn't just a slogan for them even though they now fly in F16's.

 

Edit: Occurs to me that "isn't the case" might refer to the specific event of the UN creation of Israel in 1948?

If so you also have to consider the Zionist movement and the Balfour declaration and the many events that preceded the "Nation born in a day".

This is exactly my point. They were 'victims' (and I put marks around that because they do not have a monopoly on being outcast) for so long that they still believe they are. Instead of realising what they are doing now, they see it as deserved of all the 'hardships' (again, for the same reason) they faced.

However, it should never be a case of trying to compensate Jews for what has happened to them. In fact, the majority of Jews alive today did not suffer persecution at all. They are not owed anything for simply being descended from those who did struggle. Which leads back to Israel and this bizarre sense of entitlement they have because of what happened to their ancestors.

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Doro, you need to run my moderation style by Muer if you have a problem with it. If Muer tells me that some of the post removal I have been doing (he can see them) are not what he intended then that's fine with me.

You might or might not want to use this post which seems to express what we have a conflict about:

Don't forget that posting any of the stuff I cleaned up would not be affected by moderation if it was in its own thread or a more fitting thread. It isn't censorship to suppress people's opinion. I am more than happy to let everybody show their true colors, lunatic or not, and that is forum policy here. But I do not support ruining perfectly good, unrelated threads with US party politic rants that nobody outside the US can either comprehend nor care about. Post them in your own threads. This forum is very useful in the MMO scene now and I won't let the same 2-3 individuals wreck that.

Posting US party political rants is even legal in other threads as long as it is on topic. Bash President Carter or his party for Camp David 1978 in the Israel thread all you want. But don't bring forward that lunatic crap like blaming Obama for shooting down the Iranian plane in 1988 when it wasn't even his party in power. You can post that kind of thing on this forum, but not as an off-topic derailment in anotherwise good thread.

Also, it's the always the same 2-3 figures doing this nonsense. I'm fed up with it, so unless you can make Muer overrule me (which would be fine with me if it happens) you are stuck with it.

It would be great if this forum was supporting moving posts into other threads so that I can just park them here instead of moving them to be invisible. However, this version of the forum software doesn't support it.

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Doro, you need to run my moderation style by Muer if you have a problem with it. If Muer tells me that some of the post removal I have been doing (he can see them) are not what he intended then that's fine with me.

I have.

You might or might not want to use this post which seems to express what we have a conflict about:

No, that isn't the point. The point is you keep making up the rules and then punishing people for not following them. There is no rule against tangential conversation and there was no enforcing of it until you disagreed with the subject.

Also, it's the always the same 2-3 figures doing this nonsense. I'm fed up with it, so unless you can make Muer overrule me (which would be fine with me if it happens) you are stuck with it.

So you didn't find a job at a charity at all!

It would be great if this forum was supporting moving posts into other threads so that I can just park them here instead of moving them to be invisible. However, this version of the forum software doesn't support it.

As you can already see just looking at this thread, it would lead to far too much confusion having to make a brand new thread or post in this one every bloody time we want to discuss something that even slightly deviates from the OP. Someone posts about A and references B, but the person who later discusses B then has their post hidden because it doesn't match A enough for you. And a thread about B would be entirely unnecessary because it may just be a passing thing.

In fact, your overzealous moderation lately has caused more trouble than the 'derailing' ever did to start with.

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Meh, Doro's just looking to protect his "Highest Post Count Total" title ;)

He's just a big drama queen, and he never did tolerate anyone trying to moderate him on any forum,

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