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When it's about things, and not rights

 

So as long as it is about equal opportunity and not equal pay we are good then?  Because last i checked pay was a thing not a right.

 

I would love to see what the Nazi women have in mind to bring about the communism of equal pay.  national socialism?  Wait wait drop the national bury the communism and we can call it International Socialism>>>>>>

 

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So as long as it is about equal opportunity and not equal pay we are good then?  Because last i checked pay was thing not a right.

 

I would love to see what the Nazi women have in mind to bring about the communism of equal pay.  national socialism?  Wait wait drop the national bury the communism and we can call it Internationale socialism>>>>>>

 

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What the fuck are you talking about?

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So as long as it is about equal opportunity and not equal pay we are good then?  Because last i checked pay was thing not a right.

 

If a contractual agreement is made for a worker to receive such-and-such pay from an employer for such-and-such work, then the worker does have a right to be paid the agreed-upon sum for the agreed-upon work.  Since the contract is specific to the worker and the employer, frankly it's no one else's business but theirs, unless work is given but the pay is not received.

 

 

For the Kingdom of Heaven is like a man who was the master of a household, who went out early in the morning to hire laborers for his vineyard.  When he had agreed with the laborers for a denarius a day, he sent them into his vineyard.

 

He went out about the third hour, and saw others standing idle in the marketplace.  To them he said, 'You also go into the vineyard, and whatever is right I will give you.' So they went their way.  Again he went out about the sixth and the ninth hour, and did likewise.  About the eleventh hour he went out, and found others standing idle. He said to them, 'Why do you stand here all day idle?'  "They said to him, 'Because no one has hired us.' "He said to them, 'You also go into the vineyard, and you will receive whatever is right.'

 

When evening had come, the lord of the vineyard said to his steward, 'Call the laborers and pay them their wages, beginning from the last to the first.'  "When those who were hired at about the eleventh hour came, they each received a denarius.  When the first came, they supposed that they would receive more; and they likewise each received a denarius.  When they received it, they murmured against the master of the household, saying, 'These last have spent one hour, and you have made them equal to us, who have borne the burden of the day and the scorching heat!'

 

But he answered one of them, 'Friend, I am doing you no wrong. Didn't you agree with me for a denarius?  Take that which is yours, and go your way. It is my desire to give to this last just as much as to you.  Isn't it lawful for me to do what I want to with what I own?'

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Right, equal pay for the same job, as long as all the variables are the same.

Btw, I don't see men complain when women who do the same job get paid more(it happens).

I.e, with pay scales, it's not just black and white.

 

So, take 2 people. One of each gender.

They both go to work for the same employer, doing the same job, and they start on the same date.

Their terms and conditions are the same, and their workloads are the same, and they have the same responsibilites.

They should both get the same pay.

 

Once you start messing with the variables, it's not that clearcut.

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http://boston.cbslocal.com/2014/11/11/boy-on-dennis-yarmouth-field-hockey-team-draws-critics/

 

 

"taking a girls spot"  "it's plain wrong"

 

couple quotes from the live news broadcast that did not make the cut.

 

Where is Anita when you need here?  Wait, wait.... She would just call for the abolition of sports as they are sexist past times and women who play them are just tropes.....

 

O anita you are a breath of fresh air.

 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1cR2RNgDyQ

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Back to "free speech" and "identity"

 

this is not directly related to #gamergate but it is part of the larger debate regarding abuse of power "free speech" and internet anonymity

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zdmg9QySDTs

 

 

In the end the question is do you tell the user to filter and provide the tools for them to do it or do you censor.

Lauren  sounds like a person who wants to control her audience and the people she interacts with.  She is a social warrior akin to Teetotalers of the 1830's.  We all know how that worked out. 

Google is in between a rock and a hard place with all this.  If they censor people will move and they will loose view counts and market share.  Other companies will fill in the gaps and provide the open experience we want and need. If they do nothing they may face sporadic boycotts.

So in steps governments the savior and curse,  they want to censor and regulate,  that's what governments do best and worst right? 

The powder keg or the next 25-50 years will be this censorship and identity debate and groups movements and people will be used as pawns as it progresses. 

Act 1, Scene 1: in walks the feminist all helpless and clueless as to what is really going on. But fear not she has the solution.

sorry if you see the last part as sexist,  I just think it is sad. 

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Saw this elsewhere, thougth I might share it here:

 

GamerGate is not about harassment or women. Here [tumblr.com] is a statistical analysis of #GamerGate tweets. Here [reddit.com] is a case of GamerGate tracking down a harasser, and Sarkeesian refusing to report him. Here [tiki-toki.com] is a timeline of the many grievances #GamerGate supporters have against gaming journalists. Here [gitgud.net] is the transparent, open place we track our emails to advertisers on corrupt sites. Here [gamezone.com] is a blog about the corruption. Here [cjr.org] is a discussion of one of the scum at Gawker. Here [slashdot.org] is my earlier Slashdot comment on media bias surrounding GamerGate.

Despite the many, many articles putting the word GamerGate next to the words "misogyny", "wu", harassment" and the like there is no evidence -- No Evidence -- actually associating GamerGate with any of those things, save a very tenuous link related to how the hashtag was coined and some third party trolls who it turns out harass GamerGate supporters more than GamerGate opposers.

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Where is Anita when you need here?  Wait, wait.... She would just call for the abolition of sports as they are sexist past times and women who play them are just tropes.....

 

Nah, Anita would lie to everyone saying she was a sports fan, make a Kickstarter asking for money to make videos about an imaginary issue, cherry pick examples to make it look like she has any semblance of a point, cry out her only problem is a lack of sports for women while ignoring all the sports for women and then blame it all on some 'toxic patriarchy' she's pulled out of thin air.

 

 

Saw this elsewhere, thougth I might share it here:

 

Who'd have thought that it was the anti-Gamergate crowd that was more aggressive online? Probably because when any reasonable person receives 'harrassment' or a 'death threat' online, they don't make a song and dance about it to attract attention.

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thought this was worth sharing...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QimugVfXtbU

 

smile.jpg

 

mega man girl is my hero even though it was staged.  true feminist @ work.....

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She began as a boxxy rip off (damn, boxxy was annoying) and now she's blossomed into a good sense of humour! However, I can't tell what's her own opinion or what she's saying to please certain people (she had a habit of trying to get into 4chan's good books a while back). I'd like to think she does actually have some sense (the editing was funny enough to assume so) and she does believe what she says.

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thought this was worth sharing...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QimugVfXtbU

Kind of off topic but I had to giggle a bit, she says at one point "video games were my entire childhood ..", she doesn't look like she's even at the end of her childhood yet lol

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another goodun:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrt7QDWm7w0

guy has several gooduns on his channel.

 

and again... gaming does not cause, nor is it an incubator for sexism, misogyny, and rape.

 

if that is your claim, you ARE a fucking moron!

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Yup, he's got a lot of good points. The only one I really disagree with is his view on the Big Bang Theory being articulate and intelligent, as opposed to being repetitive and try-hard. You can pretty much guess what every single character will do in any given episode. Leonard will tilt his head back and crunch his nose, while saying something sarcastic. Sheldon will say something socially unaware and reference some sci-fi show. Howard will make a reference to himself being a Jew. Raj will play the lonely Indian guy. Penny will be bland blonde girl #5683 and look unimpressed after every bit of canned laughter played for the sake of forced and unfunny lines.

It's like the stupid man's Frasier... and I don't even like Frasier.

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Yup, he's got a lot of good points. The only one I really disagree with is his view on the Big Bang Theory being articulate and intelligent, as opposed to being repetitive and try-hard. You can pretty much guess what every single character will do in any given episode. Leonard will tilt his head back and crunch his nose, while saying something sarcastic. Sheldon will say something socially unaware and reference some sci-fi show. Howard will make a reference to himself being a Jew. Raj will play the lonely Indian guy. Penny will be bland blonde girl #5683 and look unimpressed after every bit of canned laughter played for the sake of forced and unfunny lines.

It's like the stupid man's Frasier... and I don't even like Frasier.

 

also not a fan of Big Bang Theory.  the hamfisted use of a laugh track, is glaringly obvious and off-putting.

 

3rd. Rock from the Sun was much better.

3rd-Rock-from-the-Sun.jpg

 

but yeah, merely feigning offense at a show about nerd culture...  whilst kind of looking the part oneself...  yet attempting to paint "the catered too audience by publishers"...  fails to make his points hit home.

 

& SkepTorr nicely lays him bare.

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& SkepTorr nicely lays him bare.

Barer than a freshly shaven member of the Ursidae family quoting the Second Amendment.

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With regards to the lack, or perceived lack, of female main characters in games, how often is the main bad guy actually female.

Amarthiel!!!!

 

Sara Oakheart!!!!

 

 

Yeah, yeah, same person, and not quite the main bad guy.

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With regards to the lack, or perceived lack, of female main characters in games, how often is the main bad guy actually female.

 

My wife!

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With regards to the lack, or perceived lack, of female main characters in games, how often is the main bad guy actually female.

 

 

in the goonies video game and the move the main bad guy was a old woman.

 

 

GlaDOS in portals was a women

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With regards to the lack, or perceived lack, of female main characters in games, how often is the main bad guy actually female.

 

That registers as an evil witch/mother trope, which is still about male fantasy, so it's can't support female main characters in games, imo.

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That registers as an evil witch/mother trope, which is still about male fantasy, so it's can't support female main characters in games, imo.

 

 

Carmen Sandiego?  your avatar looks like her silver hmmmmm.

 

then you  have mother brain from metroid

 

ummmm Harley quin battman

 

the sofia lady from bio shock

 

there lots of examples if you care to look.

 

 

 

but we need a new game with a Feminist as the antagonist.  Maybe gamer gate will produce one for you.

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Carmen Sandiego?  your avatar looks like her silver hmmmmm.

 

She's my Champions Online beta character.  Hell Fox.  My favorite Champions character was Calamity Cricket, but she didn't photograph well. :O

 

Sweden reported today to be considering adding sexist gaming labels to games.  Sweden is the #3 happiest country in the world right now, but that ranking may plummet after Doro attacks.

 

http://www.themarysue.com/sweden-gaming-labels/

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