Talisman 37 Posted July 12, 2017 Report Share Posted July 12, 2017 http://store.turbine.com/store/turbine/en_US/custom/pbpage.lotro-mordor. 3 pre-purchase packages: Ultimate Fan bundle costs 129.99 USD. Collector's Edition bundle costs 79.99 USD. Standard Edition bundle costs 39.99 USD. FAQs are also available at https://lotro.com/en/u21-FAQ. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cossieuk 209 Posted July 12, 2017 Report Share Posted July 12, 2017 Prices seems a bit steep.  The Collectors edition is just stupid, $40 for the new race a character slot and some cosmetics.  Prices in GBP Standard - £29.99 Collectors - £59.99 Ultimate - £99.99  Price in Euros Standard - €35.99 Collectors - €75.99 Ultimate - €114.99  FAQ - https://lotro.com/en/u21-FAQ  Expansion can be bought in the store after update 22 in the winter for 2495 points High Elf will cost 1000 points Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Talisman 37 Posted July 12, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2017 4 minutes ago, cossieuk said: Prices seems a bit steep.  The Collectors edition is just stupid, $40 for the new race a character slot and some cosmetics.  Prices in GBP Standard - £29.99 Collectors - £59.99 Ultimate - £99.99 You don't get the High Elf with the Standard Edition. The Aria of the Valar is a stupid thing to give people in this package. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cossieuk 209 Posted July 12, 2017 Report Share Posted July 12, 2017 1 minute ago, Talisman said: You don't get the High Elf with the Standard Edition. The Aria of the Valar is a stupid thing to give people in this package. Nope but you can get it for 1000 points in the store. Â So get the standard, use some lifetime points and boots a High Elf to the Mordor level and no need to do the crap quests from Helms Deep to try out the new content Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Doro 818 Posted July 12, 2017 Report Share Posted July 12, 2017 An expected price list for a game running on empty. Gotta (try to) make that money back somehow, so the minute population will have to pay out a bit more. Having said that, it's probably a steal for those who like to break the cost down to "entertainment per hour" prices, and still find entertainment in re-used assets and grinds. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Talisman 37 Posted July 12, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2017 2 minutes ago, cossieuk said: Nope but you can get it for 1000 points in the store. Â So get the standard, use some lifetime points and boots a High Elf to the Mordor level and no need to do the crap quests from Helms Deep to try out the new content If the AoV is like GoV and BoV before, you'll end up a level 105 with no virtues or trait points. You'll still have to grind to get the character in any kind of shape for the journey through Mordor. Worse, you'll probably have to do that even before you step foot in Mordor due to the changes in the stats. I doubt it'll be much of a time-saver. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cossieuk 209 Posted July 12, 2017 Report Share Posted July 12, 2017 4 minutes ago, Talisman said: If the AoV is like GoV and BoV before, you'll end up a level 105 with no virtues or trait points. You'll still have to grind to get the character in any kind of shape for the journey through Mordor. Worse, you'll probably have to do that even before you step foot in Mordor due to the changes in the stats. I doubt it'll be much of a time-saver. Time saving not much of an issue, not having to do the crap quests from Helms Deep is worth some trait grinding, especially as killing mobs in early zones will be quick at level 105 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Thrabath 25 Posted July 12, 2017 Report Share Posted July 12, 2017 Yeah, but you still need to do those because of the class trait points (just as all west, central gondor, MT deeds, Osg. instance cluster, Big Battles etc...) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LordVorontur 185 Posted July 12, 2017 Report Share Posted July 12, 2017 Suppose I should update Bullroarer and see what the next build brings. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Doro 818 Posted July 12, 2017 Report Share Posted July 12, 2017 20 minutes ago, LordVorontur said: Suppose I should update Bullroarer and see what the next build brings. If the update is anything like the main client, it's going to take a while. I've been trying to download the client just for shits and giggles, but I'm only a quarter of the way through in about 2 hours. I don't know how they expect to get new players with download times like that, when other MMOs are ready to play in a fraction of that time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cossieuk 209 Posted July 12, 2017 Report Share Posted July 12, 2017 Why does it have to be solo or group. Â Turbine got something right with Inspired Greatness. Â Lets thoughts that want to group up for the main story do some but for those that dont, or cant (big problem for older content), let them play it with increased stats. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Moderate Peril 51 Posted July 13, 2017 Report Share Posted July 13, 2017 Oh look, 13 hours ago, Almagnus1 said: He said stuff here... yet another "you're playing wrong" post. The very concept of "forcing people to be social" is inherently anti-social. The clue is in the use of the word "force". It seldom yields positive results. Give players choice. It is possible to accommodate both play styles. At present running group content in LOTRO gains players better gear anyway, so I do not see socially disposed players as being disadvantaged at present. The only time I've ever come across this debate and vociferous demands from both sides, has been on forums. As we all know forums do not represent the majority world view of LOTRO players. I have written in the past about the average LOTRO player and they're far from a needy group. Posts like this always smack of "you're play differently to me and I don't like it", which is a odd mindset to say the least. Sadly it's all too common these days and impinges upon far more important matters than gaming. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cossieuk 209 Posted July 13, 2017 Report Share Posted July 13, 2017 19 minutes ago, Almagnus1 said: And yet, MMOs like FFXIV (which has the second biggest MMO community on Reddit) force players to group up or you will not advance in the MMO as the first forced instance is at level 15 with 70 being level cap - and you are blocked on the FFXIV MSQ [Main Story Quest - aka epic book quests] until you complete that instance with area quest and feature unlocks tied directly to MSQ progress. Maybe there's more to forced grouping than what both sides initially thought? That is the main reason I quit FF XIV. Â No having lots of time to play meant not doing the main story. Â I know I am not alone in this. Â If there had been a solo option I would have continued playing, and paying, so forcing one kind on playing type on players just looses you those p[layer and there money. I dont expect to get the best gear solo, I dont need the best gear if I play solo. Â I just want to play the game and enjoy the story Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Doro 818 Posted July 13, 2017 Report Share Posted July 13, 2017 1 minute ago, Almagnus1 said: And yet... if you're leveling DPS you can recruit a tank and/or healer to basically bypass the queue times as most instances are intended to be completed in 20-30 minutes (or less). The better question: If you just want to solo in an MMO, why aren't you playing a solo RPG connected to something like Discord or a Steam chat channel? You're missing a key word here: option. People like to choose when they solo and when they group. They don't like to be forced into either. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cossieuk 209 Posted July 13, 2017 Report Share Posted July 13, 2017 6 minutes ago, Almagnus1 said: And yet... if you're leveling DPS you can recruit a tank and/or healer to basically bypass the queue times as most instances are intended to be completed in 20-30 minutes (or less). The better question: If you just want to solo in an MMO, why aren't you playing a solo RPG connected to something like Discord or a Steam chat channel? I do play solo RPGs, especially Final Fantasy may favorite gaming series, I have just bought FF XII to replay.  Why does giving players choice annoy you so much.  It does not affect you You complain about people wanting the best gear while playing solo, but you are just as bad say people should play the way you want or go play something else on steam 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Woeg 14 Posted July 13, 2017 Report Share Posted July 13, 2017 39 minutes ago, cossieuk said: I do play solo RPGs, especially Final Fantasy may favorite gaming series, I have just bought FF XII to replay.  Why does giving players choice annoy you so much.  It does not affect you You complain about people wanting the best gear while playing solo, but you are just as bad say people should play the way you want or go play something else on steam +1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mallorn 107 Posted July 13, 2017 Report Share Posted July 13, 2017 1 hour ago, cossieuk said: That is the main reason I quit FF XIV.  No having lots of time to play meant not doing the main story.  I know I am not alone in this.  If there had been a solo option I would have continued playing, and paying, so forcing one kind on playing type on players just looses you those p[layer and there money. I dont expect to get the best gear solo, I dont need the best gear if I play solo.  I just want to play the game and enjoy the story Same here. I reached end game and there was literally nothing to do but grind group instances over and over. I just wanted to follow the story. I think Square definitely are missing out on customers by forcing the group content. 1 hour ago, cossieuk said: I do play solo RPGs, especially Final Fantasy may favorite gaming series, I have just bought FF XII to replay.  Why does giving players choice annoy you so much.  It does not affect you You complain about people wanting the best gear while playing solo, but you are just as bad say people should play the way you want or go play something else on steam Just got Final Fantasy XII too. So far I am loving it, which I'm finding odd because I remember being so disappointed with it at the original release. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cossieuk 209 Posted July 13, 2017 Report Share Posted July 13, 2017 17 minutes ago, Mallorn said: Just got Final Fantasy XII too. So far I am loving it, which I'm finding odd because I remember being so disappointed with it at the original release. Not played to much, but loving the speed up you can do, will make leveling grinding so much easier Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Doro 818 Posted July 13, 2017 Report Share Posted July 13, 2017 15 minutes ago, Almagnus1 said: You're also missing a point here: sometimes it doesn't make sense for you to solo something epic, and being able to solo said epic thing actually makes it less of a threat. Look at it this way, if the entire Mirkwood arc had allowed you to solo all the way to the top of BG, wouldn't that had made BG's LT fight a little less epic for the sake of a trivial minority of the playerbase? Not really, no. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Woeg 14 Posted July 13, 2017 Report Share Posted July 13, 2017 Exclusion for any reason is still exclusion 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cossieuk 209 Posted July 13, 2017 Report Share Posted July 13, 2017 15 minutes ago, Almagnus1 said: You're also missing a point here: sometimes it doesn't make sense for you to solo something epic, and being able to solo said epic thing actually makes it less of a threat. Look at it this way, if the entire Mirkwood arc had allowed you to solo all the way to the top of BG, wouldn't that had made BG's LT fight a little less epic for the sake of a trivial minority of the playerbase?  Not all content has to be solo, but the main story line should have a solo option.  So have raids and such, but open up the main story to everyone 17 minutes ago, Almagnus1 said: And yet, millions of players (at least going by https://ffxivcensus.com/ and the following Reddit post) tend to agree with me =/  Reveal hidden contents      Note: Due to the way FFXIV is designed, a player can role one character and have all classes (battle and crafting), so it's a valid assumption that one char = one player. Just think how many more they could have if the didnt exclude some play styles Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Woeg 14 Posted July 13, 2017 Report Share Posted July 13, 2017 Your standards .... not other's standards..... sigh Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Doro 818 Posted July 13, 2017 Report Share Posted July 13, 2017 19 minutes ago, Almagnus1 said: And... how far into FFXIV have you played? I haven't, but that's beside the point. You asked me about Mirkwood. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Woeg 14 Posted July 13, 2017 Report Share Posted July 13, 2017 All opinion - no science or fact there Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Woeg 14 Posted July 13, 2017 Report Share Posted July 13, 2017 Apples and oranges - what the hell are you actually arguing here dude ?  You like Final Fantashit XVIII (or whatever version they are on now) more than Lotro - we all get that  But your "standards" (or opinions or play style) do not trump anyway elses - which is my point Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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