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17 hours ago, LasraelLarson said:

lotro-population-anor.png

this image will update over time and isn't a static snapshot, you can watch right here ;)

& yes it is an extrapolation and not exact down to the millisecond of actual player numbers.

that doesn't mean it isn't in the ballpark.

Thank you for both of your posts, LasraelLarson. That was exactly what I was looking for. It will be interesting to watch those numbers on the legendary vs the regular servers. Also, if I'm reading this right, there were never 4k logged on to the Anor server. Your explanation of this makes a lot of sense. It's much less worrying at these lower population levels. 

13 hours ago, Trisswyn said:

Landroval lost 100 AH pages in a couple of days. People there say those who left to LS will return anyways.

Trisswyn, a loss of 100 AH pages seems like a lot. Though, I admit I don't know how many pages AH typically has on Landy. I bet you're right and the players will return to their servers. 

This whole LS situation might make an interesting group psychology study. 

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23 hours ago, Trisswyn said:

Landroval lost 100 AH pages in a couple of days. People there say those who left to LS will return anyways.

This is not true. This week the number of Landroval AH pages has been slightly under 200. That's a bit lower than it was, but not a lot.

If what you say is true, the AH would have been around 300 pages just before LS started. I've not seen 300 pages in a long time there.

Lately, pre-LS, the Landroval AH did around 225 pages on weekends. Tonight it's 192. We'll see what this weekend brings.

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15 hours ago, Tinker said:

Thank you for both of your posts, LasraelLarson. That was exactly what I was looking for. It will be interesting to watch those numbers on the legendary vs the regular servers. Also, if I'm reading this right, there were never 4k logged on to the Anor server. Your explanation of this makes a lot of sense. It's much less worrying at these lower population levels. 

these forum upgrades...  it used to be when you posted a linked image, that was updated at the source, the image would update here as well.  but it looks like in my previous posts both images aren't updating, but rather cashed here in static form...  wonder if i can bypass the cache...

image.png.44d813a448382e5026128af7509830e8.png

image.png.7721ab8a9316205e316af989dc13ddcf.png

now the above should be current as of this post...  i hope.

if they don't update, just click the image (in original posts) and it should pass you over to the live page, rather than a cached version here...

or use these links:

http://lotrostats.gefallenehelden.de/images/lotro-alle-gauge-3-year.png

http://lux-hdro.de/images/live/lotro-population-anor.png

is ironic back when i used to post these links a cached version would be handy as those posts were point in time specific & now i actually want it to update  ;)

the way of things...

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As others have noted, wait till the legendary server gets to the LI and essence grinds. All the happy nostalgia will give way to dread and frustration, and then the servers will die. 

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22 hours ago, Tarantula said:

This is not true. This week the number of Landroval AH pages has been slightly under 200. That's a bit lower than it was, but not a lot.

If what you say is true, the AH would have been around 300 pages just before LS started. I've not seen 300 pages in a long time there.

Lately, pre-LS, the Landroval AH did around 225 pages on weekends. Tonight it's 192. We'll see what this weekend brings.

Landroval peak since transfers was 350-400 AH pages, after Mordor it has been declining.

 

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1 hour ago, Trisswyn said:

Landroval peak since transfers was 350-400 AH pages, after Mordor it has been declining.

 

Yup, and what you wrote earlier ('loss of 100 pages in 5 days') (since release of LS) is not accurate.

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19 hours ago, Smitty said:

As others have noted, wait till the legendary server gets to the LI and essence grinds. All the happy nostalgia will give way to dread and frustration, and then the servers will die. 

Yep

I started playing on the legendary server fully intending to stop well before any essence grind. I'll most likely get to 50 (no rush, 19 now). Possibly stick around for Moria if they manage to sufficiently un-neuter it from its horrible revamp. Tiny chance I'll be around for Mirk. At a huge stretch I might be able to endure RoI to enjoy Great River. Zero chance I'll be around for Mounted Combat or the grindy garbage beyond.

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1 hour ago, Bohemond said:

Yep

I started playing on the legendary server fully intending to stop well before any essence grind. I'll most likely get to 50 (no rush, 19 now). Possibly stick around for Moria if they manage to sufficiently un-neuter it from its horrible revamp. Tiny chance I'll be around for Mirk. At a huge stretch I might be able to endure RoI to enjoy Great River. Zero chance I'll be around for Mounted Combat or the grindy garbage beyond.

Yeah, forgot about the rubberbanding crapshow that is mounted combat. I also recall that it was the Great River update that inaugurated the terrible server lag, which they've never figured out how to solve. Up to that update, you had a solid, salvageable game. 

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I've hit level 50 now, just going through the Book quests I've been neglecting. Despite the fact I love the concepts behind the storyline, it's a ridiculously boring case of running back and forth. I was just finishing up one in Annuminas and stopped to do some casual clearing when I run into what I first thought was a fellowship doing the same thing. They invited me, and it became very quickly apparent it wasn't a fellowship. It was a single guy that had a little over half a raid of alts all following him and doing exactly what he was doing. All with the ranger summon you get when you're questing there. Like a living blender, he tore his way through the entire place, the loot window rushing by so fast it was lagging for me.

Now, I've heard of multiboxers before (and more likely he wasn't multiboxing so much as multi clienting) but to the best of my knowledge I'd never seen one in the flesh. I'd seen a guy with a handful of spiders under his control in the Ettens, but never ~15 at once. Considering it's a VIP only server, this guy must surely be paying out a monthly sub per account, right? A tenner each, he's chucked down £150 just to be a one-man raid! Anyone else seen shit like that? I'm amazed a game this old is attracting that sort of attention.

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Almost certainly a gold farmer.

Anyone dumb enough to pay a subscription for content that's already available for free is also dumb enough to pay top dollar for gold, and the farmers know that.  They don't even have to advertise...the whales already have the websites bookmarked.  $150 a month is peanuts when they can charge whatever they want for gold that the imbeciles paying to play on the vip servers MUST have to gain that competitive edge over absolutely no one.

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They didn't seem much like a gold-farmer, though. They very quickly invited me to their group, so they were clearly conscious of other players missing out on mobs they might need. Then another member of their kin offered a space in their kin, which I turned down, which suggests they aren't looking to just do some bot farming and risk the accounts. And when I left, I thanked them for the group and they were polite about it. It could be that all of that is just padding they use to hide what they're really up to, but it seems like a lot of effort for some gold on a server that doesn't even have a proper economy going still (I'm on 90g so far and there's pretty much nothing of worth for sale, can't even get the brushed leathers I need for tailor).

 

In other news, it turns out the end-game content is a joke. Since there's no caps on stats like we used to have, you can very easily overgear for everything. A group of 4 of us cleared Uru without breaking a sweat, Beornings are basically gods and you don't need a healer or tank if they're in the group, people are already saying how they're doing Rift with less than half a full raid, most groups don't even bother filling all the slots before starting because they don't need to, and I've been soloing group-level landscape content like they're trash mobs. There's no anticipation when starting a run at L50 like the old days, no real discussion of tactics beyond "don't kill the adds" for example, people are rushing through like it's just a grind to get over. It's common to join a half-full group and find they're already clearing mobs without much concern. I can't tell you the amount of people who make a raid and then stick me as the healer in the smallest group and when I query it they just say "ah, we won't really need much healing". They aren't wrong, either.

It's become routine already. That is not a good sign.

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