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so this yellow vest thing that is getting totally ignored by media for months...

and meanwhile Macron is all like:

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i wonder what a modern day

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would be like?


despite media black-holing this news, pretty much everyone here (or anywhere for that matter) is already aware of this situation...  right?  ;)

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Too busy here in the UK having to deal with our government trying to fuck us over and get in the way of a No Deal Brexit. From what I saw of the frog protests, it was to do with being against a fuel tax, then it started to spread into other reasons they're not happy. Although, I hope the France/Italy thing gets more interesting, just to really fuck with the EU.

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On 2/9/2019 at 1:47 PM, Doro said:

Too busy here in the UK having to deal with our government trying to fuck us over and get in the way of a No Deal Brexit.

another clusterfuck.  close the door on this & the windows that will open will be far far worse.

though there is at least some light faintly shining...

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On 2/9/2019 at 1:47 PM, Doro said:

Although, I hope the France/Italy thing gets more interesting, just to really fuck with the EU.

happenings all over.  much potential.  ;)

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On 2/9/2019 at 10:47 PM, Doro said:

Although, I hope the France/Italy thing gets more interesting, just to really fuck with the EU.

I'm sure there was a mantra on the LOTRO forums, kind of - "You don't like it? Leave". "Can I have your stuff?"

I'm starting to root for a no-deal Brexit, so that you can have more fun and interesting things.  

 

 

P.S. Et en plus, on peut manger du pain, mais pas "du gâteau". Eh..... 

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13 hours ago, Jedy2 said:

P.S. Et en plus, on peut manger du pain, mais pas "du gâteau". Eh..... 

vous partez d’abord, puis vous parlez de pain et de cirques… sinon la charrette est devant le cheval.

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I'm just happy I'm not a citizen in the UK; The EU is far from perfect but it's much better than the politicians they have in the UK who give no shit about their country, but own Party above all and presumably one of the few who will profit from a No-Deal brexit

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48 minutes ago, Thrabath said:

the politicians they have in the UK who give no shit about their country, but own Party above all

Same in Poland. 

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42 minutes ago, Thrabath said:

I'm just happy I'm not a citizen in the UK; The EU is far from perfect but it's much better than the politicians they have in the UK who give no shit about their country, but own Party above all and presumably one of the few who will profit from a No-Deal brexit

The EU's much worse, in that they don't give a shit about 27 countries simultaneously. Their goal is to expand the globalist socialist agenda to consolidate power under a few unelected bureaucrats. We're talking an experiment in which the German Minister of Finance said of the EU "Elections cannot be allowed to change economic policy", and President of France is pushing for an EU army. The so-called totalitarian tiptoe has already been happening with the EU, where it went from a simple trade agreement among nations, to what was approaching to be the United States of Europe. There's too many alarm bells ringing to want anything other and No Deal at this point.

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I have the opinion that a lot of the critisism on the EU is populistic fear mongering and that a lot of the problems people like to point to the EU isn't an EU-induced problem, but a world-wide-society problem. Local politicians can't solve our problems, so they blame the EU.

We, as western society, can't deal in a good way, with problems caused by mass-immigration, mass-tax-evacuation by the wealthy/corporations, the changing of reality/society by technological developments, the ongoing robotization and globalization, the increasing gap between the have's and have not's, changing climate etc.

The main problem with almost all politicians is they lack a realistic futureproof vision and don't tell the truth about their goals.

 

More EU on certain policies isn't a bad idea.

Here in the Netherlands some parties want to shut down the remaining coal power plants this/next year so our CO2 emissions drop fast enough. When that happens, we need to import more energy from our neighbors, so they need to use more coal power plants. And in Germany they use lignite instead of coal, which has more CO2 emissions. So our CO2 emissions drop, those in Germany rise and the world wide CO2 emissions rise.

Same for taxes, it's too easy to evade taxes, there should be some harmonization in Europe what is taxed and how

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1 hour ago, Thrabath said:

I have the opinion that a lot of the critisism on the EU is populistic fear mongering and that a lot of the problems people like to point to the EU isn't an EU-induced problem, but a world-wide-society problem. Local politicians can't solve our problems, so they blame the EU.

Criticism such as:

- freedom of movement creating a migration issue where poorer nations lose needed workers because they're making more money in wealthier nations instead

- creation of a central bank to better control and manipulate a shared currency across multiple unbalanced member states

- customs union that prevents any deals to be made individually, while nations like Switzerland and Norway don't have that but still have access to the free market

- around 8 nations putting more into the EU than they take out, while propping up the other 20 nations that take more than they put in

- bureaucratic nature of leadership in the EU, with a bloated system of institutions like the European Council, Council of the European Union, and European Parliament

- the imbalanced nature of the EU, where nations can't contribute equally and don't get an equal control on issues, effectively resulting in other nations deciding their fate instead

- the constantly growing control of Germany over the EU

- the sheer number of policies and regulations constantly being churned out by the EU resulting in an unwieldy list that's always growing

- and the more metaphysical things, like the globalist agenda behind the EU to maintain power over Europe and tie people into a system that prevents any meaningful change

That's all directly about the EU.

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1 hour ago, Doro said:

Criticism such as:

- freedom of movement creating a migration issue where poorer nations lose needed workers because they're making more money in wealthier nations instead

- creation of a central bank to better control and manipulate a shared currency across multiple unbalanced member states

- customs union that prevents any deals to be made individually, while nations like Switzerland and Norway don't have that but still have access to the free market

- around 8 nations putting more into the EU than they take out, while propping up the other 20 nations that take more than they put in

- bureaucratic nature of leadership in the EU, with a bloated system of institutions like the European Council, Council of the European Union, and European Parliament

- the imbalanced nature of the EU, where nations can't contribute equally and don't get an equal control on issues, effectively resulting in other nations deciding their fate instead

- the constantly growing control of Germany over the EU

- the sheer number of policies and regulations constantly being churned out by the EU resulting in an unwieldy list that's always growing

- and the more metaphysical things, like the globalist agenda behind the EU to maintain power over Europe and tie people into a system that prevents any meaningful change

That's all directly about the EU.

Fuck yes.

Plus the idea of having an EU wide pension fund that will absorb national pension funds, which will put those who have worked hard and contributed the most to the national funds in those countries that already contribute the most to the EU at a disadvantage.

Plus the erosion of the standard of living in those countries that have to contribute the most.

Plus national governments who follow the EU tune instead of listening to concerned/angry citizens.

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Hopefully y'all can extricate yourselves from this mess without losing your countries in the process.

And I hope that Europe has a much better understanding of why Americans want to build that damn wall.

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1 hour ago, Almagnus1 said:

 

And I hope that Europe has a much better understanding of why Americans want to build that damn wall.

I don't think I will ever understand why anyone would want to be in such a shit-hole country as the USA. 

In EU we suck, but at least we do it in a more or less civilized way.

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On 2/13/2019 at 2:58 PM, Jedy2 said:

I don't think I will ever understand why anyone would want to be in such a shit-hole country as the USA. 

In EU we suck, but at least we do it in a more or less civilized way.

I'm not going to pretend that the US doesn't have problems, but:

  1. Upward mobility
  2. I'm not taxed to death
  3. We don't have to deal with the real Antifa and live in fear of them
  4. Our governments aren't trying to replace us with (supposedly) easier to control immigrants that's causing a slow warping of our the country into something unrecognizeable to the natives
  5. Our national park system (especially in the west) is amazing to go be in nature
  6. Our air is generally cleaner than most other places in the world
  7. I can truly get away from everyone, as it's not that hard to be many miles away from another human soul in the West

I doubt any country is truly perfect, but life in the US is still a damn good life.  If that fits your definition of a "shithole", then we'll just have to agree to disagree on that point =P

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9 hours ago, Almagnus1 said:

I'm not going to pretend that the US doesn't have problems, but:

  1. Upward mobility
  2. I'm not taxed to death
  3. We don't have to deal with the real Antifa and live in fear of them
  4. Our governments aren't trying to replace us with (supposedly) easier to control immigrants that's causing a slow warping of our the country into something unrecognizeable to the natives
  5. Our national park system (especially in the west) is amazing to go be in nature
  6. Our air is generally cleaner than most other places in the world
  7. I can truly get away from everyone, as it's not that hard to be many miles away from another human soul in the West

I doubt any country is truly perfect, but life in the US is still a damn good life.  If that fits your definition of a "shithole", then we'll just have to agree to disagree on that point =P

@1 - Ho..hum... Who am I to disagree on that, just quoting: https://phys.org/news/2017-04-upward-mobility-fallen-sharply.html

@2 - While historically there were some excesses in Europe (Sweden) the richest fucks in Poland give away under 40% on their income. USA is top here, I admit.

@3 - Very funny joke. Your KKK and Nazis Reconstruction Groups have killed and are killing how many?

@4 - Very funny joke. You're all bloody migrants you know (OK, couple of % Natives), never been importing no Blacks, no sirie.  

@5 - Never checked it myself, ready to admit. 

@6 - I'll just quote my Idol from the sixties  - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPrAuF2f_oI  

@7 - Ready to admit. Almost like Russia, eh? ;)

 

Always ready to disagree. :)

 

 

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9 hours ago, Jedy2 said:

@2 - While historically there were some excesses in Europe (Sweden) the richest fucks in Poland give away under 40% on their income. USA is top here, I admit.

They earned it, it's theirs.  The government has zero right to take what's their's.  That's what a communist country does.

9 hours ago, Jedy2 said:

@3 - Very funny joke. Your KKK and Nazis Reconstruction Groups have killed and are killing how many?

And they've a lot less people than Antifa has.  Both groups are anomalies that gets a lot of press... and have almost zero practical effect on the country otherwise.  Now let's talk about no-go zones in your country, mmkay?

And besides, the only no-go zones we have in the states are largely inner city areas where gang violence has made it generally not safe to be there (which, amusingly enough, happens in largely Democratic leaning cities and generally aren't in the Republican leaning cities).

9 hours ago, Jedy2 said:

@4 - Very funny joke. You're all bloody migrants you know (OK, couple of % Natives), never been importing no Blacks, no sirie.  

That was true like 200-300 years ago.  But not now.  And we really should be blaming the British for the slave trade, as they're the ones that gave us that problem, and it was largely resolved by the late 1800's anyways (unless you're some fool that actually believes the tripe that the news media puts out and doesn't actually know the history).

Also, since I'm a native born US citizen that means I'm not a migrant - which again shows your ignorance and uneducated viewpoint.

And if you really want to get to that viewpoint, so is France (and most of Europe for that matter).  Humans had to migrate into the land, and steal it from the animals living there before - and our ancestors likely had to commit genocide against the neanderthals to get it too.

9 hours ago, Jedy2 said:

@6 - I'll just quote my Idol from the sixties  - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPrAuF2f_oI  

So an argument from like sixty years ago before EPA started cleaning up the corporate pollution is somehow valid....

Riiiiiggghhtttt........

9 hours ago, Jedy2 said:

@7 - Ready to admit. Almost like Russia, eh? ;)

What's that has been nation have to do with anything?

9 hours ago, Jedy2 said:

Always ready to disagree. :)

In this case, you clearly need some education.  No wonder Europe needs the US to bail them out (again) - they've all gone stupid.

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4 hours ago, Almagnus1 said:

 

In this case, you clearly need some education.  No wonder Europe needs the US to bail them out (again) - they've all gone stupid.

Thank you for making my day.  :)

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2 minutes ago, Jedy2 said:

Thank you for making my day.  :)

My pleasure.

It's nice to know that the French still surrender as easily as they always have =P

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