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5 hours ago, Almagnus1 said:

Or maybe you're just saying as much because the libtards can't accept reality and have gone blue in the face demanding that everyone bend the knee to their world view?

Naw, not just them. As a trumptard, you're part of the problem too. Thread is a toxic mess of back and forth insults. Nothing good has come of it in close to 40 pages.

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4 hours ago, FundinStrongarm said:

Naw, not just them. As a trumptard, you're part of the problem too. Thread is a toxic mess of back and forth insults. Nothing good has come of it in close to 40 pages.

When you had a forgone conclusion because the Democratic field is just that weak this time around (and that party is also in the midst of a civil war), what did you expect would happen?

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3 hours ago, Almagnus1 said:

(and that party is also in the midst of a civil war)

Words without solid proof. Stuff crapping out of Trump's anus which you gobble up like candy.

Contrary to this above quote, Democrats all seem to be on the same page. Where as some Republicans openly express their disdain for where Trump has led Republicans. Even more say much the same behind closed doors.

Trump has disenfranchised large segments with conservative values. Many who voted for him in 2016 now have regrets. Their only real decision is do they stick along their party line to deny the other party or do they refrain from voting 2020 until Trump is gone. That's kind of a sad choice. Not every conservative is a fanatic. Don't underestimate the power of silence.

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1 hour ago, Splay said:

Words without solid proof. Stuff crapping out of Trump's anus which you gobble up like candy.

Contrary to this above quote, Democrats all seem to be on the same page. Where as some Republicans openly express their disdain for where Trump has led Republicans. Even more say much the same behind closed doors.

Trump has disenfranchised large segments with conservative values. Many who voted for him in 2016 now have regrets. Their only real decision is do they stick along their party line to deny the other party or do they refrain from voting 2020 until Trump is gone. That's kind of a sad choice. Not every conservative is a fanatic. Don't underestimate the power of silence.

Trump changed the Republican party, and thanks to the Democrats, it has been tested and tempered.

So while it looks like Buttigieg is in the lead with the delegates atm (going by https://www.google.com/search?q=dem+delegate+count+2020 ), Sanders is probably going to have the nomination stolen from him (again) because the Democrat top brass realizes that Sanders is unelectible... despite (if this was the Republican way of doing things) Sanders should have the nomination because that's the will of the Democratic voter base. 

However, the purity tests like what Sanders recently said that has the effect of essentially forcing the remaining pro-life Democrats out of the party, as the Democratic party rallies around their radical left elements.  It's like what Obama described as a circular firing squad, and it's rendering the party impotent because it's forcing the center to the Republicans, especially in light of Pelosi tearing the speech, which has had the effect of alienating many Democrats as most saw that as a step too far... especially since it allows Trump to makes the point about just how little the Democrats actually care about others.

The problem, however, comes from the Americans that are badly educated sheep because they see all this pie in the sky nonsense the Democrats are peddling, want it, and then vote for it... when it would really break the country because it's not actually addressing the cost issue within the medical industry (why is it so expensive?). nor is it addressing the looming problem of Social Security (the age where benefits begin keeps rising because it's actually a Ponzi scheme and unsustainable because it relies on the current workers paying into the system so payments to the beneficiaries can occur).  College loan forgiveness is another one that sounds good... but what really needs to happen is a look at higher education, and the role of trade schools.  Not everyone needs to goto college, and there are many degrees outside of STEM that lead to a well educated waiter or waitress and little more.

That said, the problem with the Democratic party right now is if they get control of everything it will turn the US into a socialist state... and then America is going to die because all socialism does is invite massive poverty while consolidate wealth and power into the government.  All you need to do is study Venezuela and you'll see exactly what socialism does to a prosperous country.

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Here's one example that was on Drudge about the Democratic civil war... https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/02/aoc-bernie-sanders-campaign-iowa

There's many more if you want to open your eyes to the disaster.

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4 hours ago, Almagnus1 said:

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And here's a video from one of the more high-profile Democrats that have walked away:

 

The fringes on both sides have this in common. These minority extremes try to push their weight. Some times it works and other times not so much. It would probably be just as easy to find a video from the opposite view claiming the same things. Really not much to see in this made point.

2 hours ago, Amenhir said:

 

I admit I did laugh but not so much about the political nature. More to the oblivious nature of the average person. Though I do wonder how many had to be interviewed to find these prime specimens. Honestly if these are the masses that comprise the US we're screwed no matter what political affiliation these people have. The interviewer presented questions and those people exist in ignorance.

 

Trump:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Donald_Trump

Trump registered as a Republican in Manhattan in 1987 and since that time has changed his party affiliation five times. In 1999, Trump changed his party affiliation to the Independence Party of New York. In August 2001, Trump changed his party affiliation to Democratic. In September 2009, Trump changed his party affiliation back to the Republican Party. In December 2011, Trump changed to "no party affiliation" (independent). In April 2012, Trump again returned to the Republican Party.

In a 2004 interview, Trump told CNN's Wolf Blitzer: "In many cases, I probably identify more as Democrat," explaining: "It just seems that the economy does better under the Democrats than the Republicans. Now, it shouldn't be that way. But if you go back, I mean it just seems that the economy does better under the Democrats...

 

This doesn't surprise me seeing how Trump is often inconsistent and lacks the notion of loyalty. The irony of this loyalty or lack of is Trump demands loyalty. I find a man who lives without loyalty hard to follow. The only loyalty Trump has is unto himself.

That guy who jumps the sinking ship first, leaving behind others to drown. Not the kind of hero material the US needs.

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1 hour ago, Splay said:

The fringes on both sides have this in common. These minority extremes try to push their weight. Some times it works and other times not so much. It would probably be just as easy to find a video from the opposite view claiming the same things. Really not much to see in this made point.

I admit I did laugh but not so much about the political nature. More to the oblivious nature of the average person. Though I do wonder how many had to be interviewed to find these prime specimens. Honestly if these are the masses that comprise the US we're screwed no matter what political affiliation these people have. The interviewer presented questions and those people exist in ignorance.

 

Trump:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Donald_Trump

Trump registered as a Republican in Manhattan in 1987 and since that time has changed his party affiliation five times. In 1999, Trump changed his party affiliation to the Independence Party of New York. In August 2001, Trump changed his party affiliation to Democratic. In September 2009, Trump changed his party affiliation back to the Republican Party. In December 2011, Trump changed to "no party affiliation" (independent). In April 2012, Trump again returned to the Republican Party.

In a 2004 interview, Trump told CNN's Wolf Blitzer: "In many cases, I probably identify more as Democrat," explaining: "It just seems that the economy does better under the Democrats than the Republicans. Now, it shouldn't be that way. But if you go back, I mean it just seems that the economy does better under the Democrats...

 

This doesn't surprise me seeing how Trump is often inconsistent and lacks the notion of loyalty. The irony of this loyalty or lack of is Trump demands loyalty. I find a man who lives without loyalty hard to follow. The only loyalty Trump has is unto himself.

That guy who jumps the sinking ship first, leaving behind to drown. Not the kind of hero material the US needs.

Trump is the most RINO President there has ever been.

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So yeah, take a good hard look at the results for New Hampshire ( https://www.cnn.com/election/2020/state/new-hampshire ).

Sanders and Buttigieg pulled in roughly 148k votes, with close to 250k votes for all the Democrats.  Flip to the Republican side, and Trump pulled in about 130k votes... without even trying.  

That's going to be a problem for the Democrats as right now the field is so divided that it makes it easy for Sanders to win... especially since people like Warren and Biden aren't pulling out (yet).  With the exception of Bloomberg, Klobuchar, and maybe Buttigieg, Trump would mop the floor with any of the other candidates.  The spectacle with those three would make it interesting, to say the least, but I would suspect Trump would still win out in any event.

1 hour ago, FundinStrongarm said:

Trump is the most RINO President there has ever been.

Perhaps, but then again, maybe the Republican party needed to be re-centered?

Either way, the first term results merit a second term, as does sending a giant FU to the MSM and their dogs, the Democrats.

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23 minutes ago, Almagnus1 said:

Either way, the first term results merit a second term, as does sending a giant FU to the MSM and their dogs, the Democrats.

He hasn't done anything.

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6 hours ago, Amenhir said:

He hasn't done anything.

This is correct. Aside from wiping his ass with the Constitution, over stepping the separation of powers, inviting foreign powers to interfere in US elections, aiding and abetting his criminal friends, evading taxes, and stealing tax payer money, Trump has not done much except wake up his wife in the late night to do his tweets for him.

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6 hours ago, Almagnus1 said:

Either way, the first term results merit a second term, as does sending a giant FU to the MSM and their dogs, the Democrats.

Need to focus on the first part and, really, get the second part out of one's thought process.

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3 hours ago, Splay said:

This is correct. Aside from wiping his ass with the Constitution, over stepping the separation of powers, inviting foreign powers to interfere in US elections, aiding and abetting his criminal friends, evading taxes, and stealing tax payer money, Trump has not done much except wake up his wife in the late night to do his tweets for him.

Sure you're not describing the Obama administration?

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2 hours ago, Almagnus1 said:

Sure you're not describing the Obama administration?

Well, here is the thing. Obama isn't the current president, so I couldn't possibly be talking about him. If Obama was such a crook, then why isn't he being charged? Republicans had the majority in every branch yet the only one bitching about Obama is Trump. And... of course you.

The continued deflection complaining about past administrations just comes off as being an insecure bitch. Which btw is how I see the bully Trump when he doesn't get his way.

Looks like the AG Barr is going to testify about his recent actions concerning Stone's sentence. I say he won't show. By the time, to appear arrives, Bolton's book will be released. I see no way Barr will invite the mere chance of any real truth escaping his mouth. Under oath he would be siting the 5th amendment to every question outside of the actually recommended sentence change subject. Even though those lines of questioning are related.

As I said before. Impeachment was just the opening salvo. Now the Republicans played their best poker hand, they have no trump tricks to play.

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31 minutes ago, Splay said:

Well, here is the thing. Obama isn't the current president, so I couldn't possibly be talking about him.

I see that comparison (predictably) went over your head.

31 minutes ago, Splay said:

If Obama was such a crook, then why isn't he being charged?

It's cause the Deep State heavily favors the Democrats, and while the Republicans have slowly been cleaning out the syncophants, it's a very slow and arduous process.

31 minutes ago, Splay said:

As I said before. Impeachment was just the opening salvo. Now the Republicans played their best poker hand, they have no trump tricks to play.

This is the difference between Republicans and Democrats, Republicans want to leave it to the voters to decide... Democrats want to rule with an iron fist and decide for the people  It's also strongly suspected that the reason why Democrats are so anti-voter validation is that it would basically highlight that they can't get elected unless they hack the election system.... kinda like what was exposed with the Iowa Primary issues.

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1 hour ago, Almagnus1 said:

I see that comparison (predictably) went over your head.

There is no comparison. Was Obama put through the Impeachment process? Was Obama Impeached? Was Obama charged or indicted on anything? Republicans had opportunities with majority and yet nothing happened. Don't try and tell me they didn't because Republicans have a higher moral ground than any other political party. Because Ha! Ha!, that would be just dumb.

1 hour ago, Almagnus1 said:

It's cause the Deep State heavily favors the Democrats, and while the Republicans have slowly been cleaning out the syncophants, it's a very slow and arduous process.

Just who exactly is the Deep State? I need a good laugh. Tell it true in your own words.

1 hour ago, Almagnus1 said:

This is the difference between Republicans and Democrats, Republicans want to leave it to the voters to decide... Democrats want to rule with an iron fist and decide for the people  It's also strongly suspected that the reason why Democrats are so anti-voter validation is that it would basically highlight that they can't get elected unless they hack the election system.... kinda like what was exposed with the Iowa Primary issues.

Republicans only say, let the voters decide if they think those votes go to Republicans. Come now, don't say stuff that has no equitable value. You ignore those politicians represent voters. You can't argue both ends of a burning candle and have others expect to think it makes sense.

I don't think there is enough available public information to believe your conspiracy. I do see a problem with voting in general, but lets not forget Trump ask other nations to interfere.

Personally I prefer paper ballots.

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Calling David Rubin a high profile democrat is a joke.  And the Republicans only let the voters decide AFTER they have gerrymandered the districts in their favor.

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Is Trump's world becoming unglued?

Trump now needs another chief of staff. Imagine that. A military guy defending those who use military protocol. Trumps gets pissed and fires him. Kind of rich of Trump to say someone can't keep their mouth shut.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-hits-back-at-john-kelly-cant-keep-his-mouth-shut/ar-BBZYhwp?li=BBnbfcL

 

Barr standing his ground against Trump on his over zealous troll tweeting. How long before Barr gets fired? What is the number up to now for Trump firing White House staff thirty?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/barr-blasts-trumps-tweets-impossible-for-me-to-do-my-job-abc-news-exclusive/ar-BBZYHjr?li=BBnb7Kz

 

Trump refused to learn when you place yourself in a public office, you need to not say dumb shit. Instead of waking up to this reality, Trump chooses to act like a criminal. Someone who has something to hide. Trump is a classic example of how a paranoid person in power abuses power. I highly doubt Trump will ever understand he has caused all his own problems as President.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-says-he-may-stop-allowing-aides-to-listen-to-foreign-leader-calls-following-infamous-ukraine-call/ar-BBZYCM6?li=BBnb7Kz

 

I think many of these people who work for Trump are just tired of the idiot we call President.

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2 hours ago, Papi said:

And the Republicans only let the voters decide AFTER they have gerrymandered the districts in their favor.

So you're saying Democrats don't do the same thing too?

39 minutes ago, Splay said:

Is Trump's world becoming unglued?

As it's apparent you're a sheep listening to the MSM.... I think the conclusion is already forgone, so the rest of your post doesn't matter.

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1 hour ago, Almagnus1 said:

So you're saying Democrats don't do the same thing too?

As it's apparent you're a sheep listening to the MSM.... I think the conclusion is already forgone, so the rest of your post doesn't matter.

Wait... Are you saying MSN showing news from every source there is, is MSM? Where does a person go to be informed? Timhat? Ted Cruz? Alex Jones? :N

I didn't see you deny or contest those articles linked. Oh wait again. You can't because they are factual content.

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Here's an article that goes into more depth on how states are starting to become pretty fractures where the cities are blue, yet most of the landmass is red, leading to an initiative in part of Oregon where the parts wanting to leave the state and be absorbed by Idaho.  It's also highlighting the problem where legislation that makes sense for the city gets enforced upon countryside where it is detrimental to the countryside and the countryside must submit to the will of the city because the city is able to outvote them.  Stuff like this is why we have the Electoral College.  And yes, Portland really is that nuts.

https://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/2020/02/ballot-initiative-effort-to-move-eastern-oregon-counties-to-idaho-gains-momentum-leader-calls-it-peaceful-revolution.html

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And one more thing.... Crowder goes through debunking one of these idiot leftist talking heads that tries to make the case that Conservatives aren't being censored, and that it's all in the conservative's head...

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