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6 hours ago, Almagnus1 said:

And Biden's a straight up racist https://www.cbsnews.com/news/joe-biden-black-voters-trump/ .

As the "you ain't black if you vote for Trump" line of thinking

1 hour ago, Almagnus1 said:

Oh, here it is:

.... are people still trying to pretend that Biden is a viable candidate?

Biden still gets 90% + of the Black vote regardless.

this little gaff might swing the Black vote by a fraction of a percentage point...   in total numbers (of less than 13% or 37.6 million total) at best will translate to 376,000 votes (across the whole country) if every Black person in America actually voted and you did not factor out minors.  reality is across the whole US this translated to a shift of maybe 30,000 votes, if that...

it won't remotely be what breaks Biden... or gets Trump elected for that matter.  nor will it be the straw on the camels back in swing states.

and until you grasp the ceremonial nature of Bidens run...  this won't much matter.

folks that vote the left ticket are voting for the correct set of progressive attitudes, not a race, or a person.

 

which is why i am VERY interested to see if Stacey Abrams breaks in and becomes Joes VP pick & if no...  will she make a stink if the VP is not a women of color?  or like Bernie, swallow the Bullet for the greater party goal.

 

what happens if Joe announces someone like Elizabeth, or Amy?

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might be August or later before we find out for certain...

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1 hour ago, LasraelLarson said:

Biden still gets 90% + of the Black vote regardless.

this little gaff might swing the Black vote by a fraction of a percentage point...   in total numbers (of less than 13% or 37.6 million total) at best will translate to 376,000 votes (across the whole country) if every Black person in America actually voted and you did not factor out minors.  reality is across the whole US this translated to a shift of maybe 30,000 votes, if that...

it won't remotely be what breaks Biden... or gets Trump elected for that matter.  nor will it be the straw on the camels back in swing states.

and until you grasp the ceremonial nature of Bidens run...  this won't much matter.

folks that vote the left ticket are voting for the correct set of progressive attitudes, not a race, or a person.

I think you're overestimating how attractive the woke points are to the average American.  There's been enough failures in cinema, comics, TV, and other entertainment because the companies chased after the woke stuff.... and then #GetWokeGoBroke happened.  There's a reason why the Democrats have a rather large #walkaway movement...

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The same thing is happening on the Conservative side in the US. Its wrong to deny this and stupid to try.

Sensible Conservatives don't run for their pom poms and cheer morons who go into public restaurants armed for war. Guys like Timhat continually grind away at a Liberal dead tree and complain there are wood chips everywhere. All the while ignoring the lead to the right has been overtaken and extended to the horizon, by fascist nutcases.

Anyone with a clue knows how extreme socialism and fascism ends with one conclusion. Mass death, anarchy, poverty. These truths are well known. When the proclamation that god is dead was announced, the future was already predicted. In the 150 years since that moment, Americans are still just as dumb as when god was alive.

Meanwhile the corporate rich are still, all too willing to stand on the backs of the poor, and wave any banner you prefer.

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On 5/23/2020 at 6:09 AM, LasraelLarson said:

oh mercy, it is only May...  6 more months for this to ramp up:

like every appearance is a new gift.

To be fair to him, he doesn't say "beat" he says "be". He was asked a question about whether or not he's going to be copying policies of other Democrats and he dismisses it by saying he's going to be himself. That's why the question isn't included in the clip, or it immediately provides context for what is no more than (drum roll) fake news.

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And Biden is gonna be drug by his comment, I mean even the interviewer said this:

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Charlamagne Tha God later said on CNN, “A black woman running mate is necessary, especially after today.” He added that the question of “what makes somebody black” is a discussion for black people, not for “a white man.”

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/05/22/5242706002/

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And one last thing on this, finally we have a black guy calling out the Democrats for the racists they really are:

 

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 16 hours ago, Doro said:

To be fair to him, he doesn't say "beat" he says "be". He was asked a question about whether or not he's going to be copying policies of other Democrats and he dismisses it by saying he's going to be himself. That's why the question isn't included in the clip, or it immediately provides context for what is no more than (drum roll) fake news.

oh sweet summer child...  you think i haven't seen the whole thing, or that it changes anything?

https://youtu.be/nbnJ5pTsP6o?t=566

the above is timestamped to include the question & Joes full response.  after he says he will "be(at)" Joe Biden, he then spews a delightful bit blather, never really nailing any point home.

even in the full clip, most still hear beat.  regardless...

every time he comes out of the basement...  even virtually, it is a gift.


On 5/22/2020 at 6:18 PM, Almagnus1 said:

I think you're overestimating how attractive the woke points are to the average American. 

not estimating anything.  looking at reality:

https://secureservercdn.net/166.62.110.213/pg2.00d.myftpupload.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Black-Political-Affiliation-1936-to-2016.png

in 2016 88% of Black voters voted Hillary.  in 2008 it was 95% with historical Black Turnout for Obama, down 2% in 2012. 

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Joe Biden was Obamas wing man.  in spite of everything he has said in the past that was far more racist than this little stupid, "you ain't black gaff."

you are slap stupid if you think the Black voter turnout for Biden will be lower, or the same as it was with Hillary.  lets just say Trump does shift another 100,000 votes from Blacks into his column...  i highly doubt...

IT WON"T FUCKING MATTER.  that many more than showed up for Hillary will show up for Joe...  because Obama.

Obama was and is this very woke shit of having the correct set of progressive values.  Biden was his wing man.

 

when it comes to Trump... Whites, then Asians, then Hispanics...  and then Blacks.  focus on where you stand to gain the most.  if you plan to win that is.

look how fricken close the white vote is to the national average!  1992 Bill Clinton got White folk a little bit excited...  even more so than Obama.  did not last of course...

still national average rides with White people...  even with their collective declining enthusiasm and numbers...

culture has been on a shifting course since the 60's...  it does not shift back overnight.  & if it doesn't shift back, but continues.  you can kiss America good-bye.  China is ready and poised at every opportunity to steal that world placement by continuing to push the shift started in the 60's.  this has been building momentum for decades...  with foreign intervention, from former USSR...  in the past decade China has supplanted that old USSR regime.

yes some additional Black folk will vote for Trump...  it won't remotely decide this contest though.  White voter apathy however, may actually cost Trump the 2020 game.  we'll see how long it takes to get this economy back on track.  November 2020 may not be enough time with so many things shut down, but that could also hurt the Democrats just as much with soo many extending shelter at home coming from Dem States.

the backlash from "you ain't black" will be dwarfed by any backlash to lack of economic security...  as time proceeds on, becomes increasingly dependent on reopening.  if Democrats continue to message shelter at home and lock-down, that will hurt them more than this you ain't black will ever hurt Biden.

have fun LARPing that you care about racism...   realistically, the payoff won't matter.

i am not estimating anything.  nor am i counting on simple "woke" fatigue to be enough to turn back what has been building momentum now for decades.

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2 hours ago, LasraelLarson said:

Obama was and is this very woke shit of having the correct set of progressive values.  Biden was his wing man.

And yet, that was an Obama specific thing.  It's been speculated that HRC only had the votes she did largely because other Democrats were stuffing the ballot boxes.

That only worked for Obama, and every single Democrat that has tried it has largely crashed and burned.  For example, AOC is probably not going to stay in Congress because she cost NYC a very lucrative deal with Amazon (among other things).  Several of the other members of the woke brat pack are outright racists (like Rashida Talib and Ilhan Omar).

2 hours ago, LasraelLarson said:

when it comes to Trump... Whites, then Asians, then Hispanics...  and then Blacks.  focus on where you stand to gain the most.  if you plan to win that is.

look how fricken close the white vote is to the national average!  1992 Bill Clinton got White folk a little bit excited...  even more so than Obama.  did not last of course...

If that were true... why did Mike Garcia win the 25th Congressional district seat in California by 10% over his Democratic opponent? (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_California's_25th_congressional_district_special_election ).

2 hours ago, LasraelLarson said:

culture has been on a shifting course since the 60's...  it does not shift back overnight.  & if it doesn't shift back, but continues.  you can kiss America good-bye.

If you can't see the tide going out right now, don't complain when you get nailed by the oncoming tsunami.

2 hours ago, LasraelLarson said:

the backlash from "you ain't black" will be dwarfed by any backlash to lack of economic security...  as time proceeds on, becomes increasingly dependent on reopening.

And if the Democrats continue to obstruct Trump on getting things open, Trump will force things open (like he did with the houses of worship recently).

2 hours ago, LasraelLarson said:

  if Democrats continue to message shelter at home and lock-down, that will hurt them more than this you ain't black will ever hurt Biden.

And that's precisely what Trump is banking on.  Also, the "you ain't black" gaff is just the first in a VERY long line of gaffs Trump is expecting from Biden as he's basically put Biden in a xanatos gambit (see https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/XanatosGambit ) - Biden stays off the air, Trump rails on him for basically being a sock puppet that's to physically weak to be President, Biden goes on air and he generates pro-Trump campaign commercials.

2 hours ago, LasraelLarson said:

have fun LARPing that you care about racism...   realistically, the payoff won't matter.

It should have died out many decades ago, and the only people that still going on about race are the actually racist.  That said, when a politician makes a truly racist comment, I'm gonna point it out as it's a very solid reason why they shouldn't be in office - and not racist by some bass ackwards leftist definition.

What Biden said was wholly unacceptable and totally racist and only demonstrates the typical Democrat "get back on the plantation" attitude towards the black community they have held ever since their party founding in the early 1800's - and enough of them are starting to feel it that they're walking away from the Democrats.  Zuby's twitter thread (all 14 tweets of it) do a great job at summarizing exactly why what Biden said was equally as offensive as telling a Holocaust survivor they should be thankful for the Nazis.  If you don't get the severity of Biden's comment, you're just out of touch. =/

2 hours ago, LasraelLarson said:

i am not estimating anything.  nor am i counting on simple "woke" fatigue to be enough to turn back what has been building momentum now for decades.

You had better start looking at what's going on with the ratings for the US news organizations, especially the massive layoffs for BuzzFeed (https://variety.com/2020/digital/news/buzzfeed-cuts-staff-salaries-coronavirus-pandemic-1203545104/#! ) and Vox ( https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/17/media/vox-media-furloughs/index.html ) because they can't generate the revenue off of this woke propaganda they've been peddling.  CNN and MSNBC are lagging behind Fox (usually quite badly - https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/may/10/inside-the-beltway-not-running-white-house-press-b/ ), and the left leaning news sources combined are generally less than what the leader for the right leading news sources do (I don't recall where I saw that metric).  Then you have the entire death of the Hollywood celebrity and late night TV shows as the lockdown has shown the entire lot of them to be grossly out of touch boomers that are absolute shit at YouTube.

The short of it, Americans have stopped being fooled by this entire Democrat/Media machine, and it's falling apart - and anyone daft enough to believe that it's still working is going to be in for a rude awakening come November as the sum total of everything going on in the cultural landscape has shown the societal pendulum has started swinging to the right, and will continue to do so while the idiot leftists that have tried to brace it on the left side are about to get ran over by the very force of change they tried to halt.

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And even more proof that the Democrats (and the news media) have completely lost it, articles like https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/24/us/politics/trump-2020-election-voting-rights.html that start out with really bad fan fiction:

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WASHINGTON — In October, President Trump declares a state of emergency in major cities in battleground states, like Milwaukee and Detroit, banning polling places from opening.

A week before the election, Attorney General William P. Barr announces a criminal investigation into the Democratic presidential nominee, Joseph R. Biden Jr.

After Mr. Biden wins a narrow Electoral College victory, Mr. Trump refuses to accept the results, won’t leave the White House and declines to allow the Biden transition team customary access to agencies before the Jan. 20 inauguration.

Anyone that believes this drivel needs to go seek counseling as they've become detached from reality.

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1 hour ago, Almagnus1 said:

And yet, that was an Obama specific thing.

and yet he beat Hillary too.

1 hour ago, Almagnus1 said:

AOC is probably not going to stay in Congress because she cost NYC a very lucrative deal with Amazon

lucrative for Amazon a company that fucks the US postal service up the ass and gets away with it, (not to mention Amazon employees.)  without some hard data, there is a 50/50 ballpark chance blue NY also rewards her for it.

i think she is an idiot.  doesn't mean i am convinced she is going away anytime soon.

1 hour ago, Almagnus1 said:

the woke brat pack are outright racists (like Rashida Talib and Ilhan Omar).

and their districts will likely re-elect them as well.  Rashida is almost a guarantee.

1 hour ago, Almagnus1 said:

why did Mike Garcia win the 25th Congressional district seat in California by 10% over his Democratic opponent?

could be his last name?

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until i can find some actual voter registration turn-out data, hard to say exactly why, unlike the more recent clear backlash to the Northham gun bans in Virginia that flipped the vote to Republican.   you have any incite into why this district flipped?  is there a clear candidate for the switch?  i am unaware of one in the District 25 case, demographics aside.

1 hour ago, Almagnus1 said:

If you can't see the tide going out right now, don't complain when you get nailed by the oncoming tsunami.

hey man, if wishes were reality...  currently i'd be hoping for the mother of all tsunamis...  but if i am honest, all the fun i had back in 2016 (even Trump seemed to enjoy it more) is kinda a fraction of that currently.  and i am seeing that reflected elsewhere.  i got my nose up a pretty large cross section, rather than hug boxing a circle jerk.

there are hard core blue wave believers as well.

if you can't see the billions in Chinese money behind that...

or the fact that a HUGE bulk of social media figures from 2016 are flat out de-platformed.  it isn't just Milo that is gone, not remotely.  & Trump is still just "monitoring" the situation.

the only thing i see is a fight tooth and nail down to the finish, which is not guaranteed until it is over.

1 hour ago, Almagnus1 said:

Biden stays off the air, Trump rails on him for basically being a sock puppet that's to physically weak to be President, Biden goes on air and he generates pro-Trump campaign commercials.

thanks for that really fucking obvious insight.  this is me saying no shit.

1 hour ago, Almagnus1 said:

It should have died out many decades ago, and the only people that still going on about race are the actually racist.

tribalism will never die out and you are a little naive to think it will.  there are altruistic benefits to in group out group dynamics.  it isn't 100% downside all the time.  but plenty of white folk think that, and they will get squarely fucked in the ass as reward.  take that to the bank.

1 hour ago, Almagnus1 said:

If you don't get the severity of Biden's comment, you're just out of touch. =/

it wasn't severe.  dumb yes.  assumptive, definitely.  but severe?  not really.

he has said far worse..

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1 hour ago, Almagnus1 said:

It's been speculated that HRC only had the votes she did largely because other Democrats were stuffing the ballot boxes.

Are you suggesting over 3 million voters stuffed the ballot box to give Hillary the popular vote? I hope you are aware the total number of voter fraud in the whole US history doesn't come close to 3 million.

1 hour ago, Almagnus1 said:

For example, AOC is probably not going to stay in Congress because she cost NYC a very lucrative deal with Amazon (among other things).

I doubt it very much. Amazon is now a monopoly and the single largest contributor to trash in the US. Amazon is way beyond resource intensive with their wasteful packaging providing its goods. NYC or any other area would do well not having Amazon. Their pay is shit and their safety record is consistently the worst of any current US company.

1 hour ago, Almagnus1 said:

If that were true... why did Mike Garcia win the 25th Congressional district seat in California by 10% over his Democratic opponent?

This was no surprise to anyone. You should learn about the districts history before praising the return if the messiah.

1 hour ago, Almagnus1 said:

And if the Democrats continue to obstruct Trump on getting things open, Trump will force things open (like he did with the houses of worship recently).

Lmao! Trump didn't and he couldn't. First off it is a Governor's decision and churches throughout the US have spoken their mind. In this, a majority of religions have independently decide to keep their doors closed. The Trumper Tantrum Donald spewed, equals nothing.

1 hour ago, Almagnus1 said:

What Biden said was wholly unacceptable and totally racist and only demonstrates the typical Democrat "get back on the plantation" attitude towards the black community they have held ever since their party founding in the early 1800's - and enough of them are starting to feel it that they're walking away from the Democrats.

This a perfect example of how I know you are a dumbfounded dipshit. If what you say was even remotely true then all those Democrats would be residing in the southern states. That would mean lots and lots of voters in rural southern areas are Democrats. Hold the presses! Rural southern districts are Republicans. Imagine that!

1 hour ago, Almagnus1 said:

The short of it, Americans have stopped being fooled by this entire Democrat/Media machine,

Even Fox News is growing tired of Trump. Soon as one of them says something sensible, Trump goes on a Twitter tirade. Which btw, is happening with more frequency.

 

You push yourself off as a Republican and conservative. I know this is a lie. You just use it as a whining platform, because in truth you are a disgruntled liberal capitalist. Because, if you were really a conservative you'd espouse those inherent values all conservatives have and you don't. I, to a degree see lots of your generation as talking bobbleheads who haven't a clue about what is really going on. Keep on hangin out with the upvote/downvote crowd you'll do just fine. :F

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5 hours ago, LasraelLarson said:

oh sweet summer child...  you think i haven't seen the whole thing, or that it changes anything?

I was giving you the benefit of the doubt that you hadn't, as it definitely changes things. It flies in the face of what's being claimed. He didn't say "beat", he said "be", the context (and the sound) heavily backs that up regardless of what some claim to hear otherwise. People don't even have to make up things either, he's already using those Acme curved pistols to shoot himself with the whole "you ain't black" nonsense.

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1 hour ago, LasraelLarson said:

and yet he beat Hillary too.

She's a distorting force in US politics and really just needs to go away... instead of fundraising for Biden https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/496097-hillary-clinton-appearing-at-virtual-fundraiser-for-biden

1 hour ago, LasraelLarson said:

lucrative for Amazon a company that fucks the US postal service up the ass and gets away with it, (not to mention Amazon employees.)  without some hard data, there is a 50/50 ballpark chance blue NY also rewards her for it.

Eh, point... but at the same time Amazon has (more or less) built a complete shipping infrastructure as many of the packages I am getting from them are delivered via Amazon courriers, and not the USPS.  That said, the USPS isn't the shining beacon of a shipping service as it once was, so if they cut a stupid deal....

1 hour ago, LasraelLarson said:

could be his last name?

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until i can find some actual voter registration turn-out data, hard to say exactly why, unlike the more recent clear backlash to the Northham gun bans in Virginia that flipped the vote to Republican.   you have any incite into why this district flipped?  is there a clear candidate for the switch?  i am unaware of one in the District 25 case, demographics aside.

It's because it's the district that had Katie Hill https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katie_Hill_(politician) , who was basically a slut that not only cucked her husband by nailing her male staffer, but also had a female lover on the side too.  Rumor has it that revenge porn happened along the way, and on her final address to congress she blamed the patriarchy for her sexual actions... rather than own the mistakes.  Apparently district 25 was so appalled by the actions of a Democrat that, by the way.  For reference of what we're talking about, here's the district that's just due north of LA:

California US Congressional District 25 (since 2013).tif

1 hour ago, LasraelLarson said:

hey man, if wishes were reality...  currently i'd be hoping for the mother of all tsunamis...  but if i am honest, all the fun i had back in 2016 (even Trump seemed to enjoy it more) is kinda a fraction of that currently.  and i am seeing that reflected elsewhere.  i got my nose up a pretty large cross section, rather than hug boxing a circle jerk.

there are hard core blue wave believers as well.

if you can't see the billions in Chinese money behind that...

or the fact that a HUGE bulk of social media figures from 2016 are flat out de-platformed.  it isn't just Milo that is gone, not remotely.  & Trump is still just "monitoring" the situation.

the only thing i see is a fight tooth and nail down to the finish, which is not guaranteed until it is over.

Joe Rogan getting signed over to Spotify as an exclusive deal is a huge game changer, depending on how Spotify lets him do things.  https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/20/business/media/joe-rogan-spotify-contract.html

It could be one of the wildest months on YouTube as Rogan will basically broadcast to both, and force the YouTube censorship issue with the retort of "what are you going to do, ban me?"

1 hour ago, LasraelLarson said:

thanks for that really fucking obvious insight.  this is me saying no shit.

Oh Rly?

1 hour ago, LasraelLarson said:

tribalism will never die out and you are a little naive to think it will.  there are altruistic benefits to in group out group dynamics.  it isn't 100% downside all the time.  but plenty of white folk think that, and they will get squarely fucked in the ass as reward.  take that to the bank.

That's why you gotta focus on equality of opportunity as focusing on equality of outcome gives you the totalitarian nightmare of China.

1 hour ago, LasraelLarson said:

it wasn't severe.  dumb yes.  assumptive, definitely.  but severe?  not really.

he has said far worse..

When you have the NAACP putting distance between you and them, you know you dun screwed up.  https://www.naacp.org/latest/naacp-statement-endorsement-comment-former-vice-president-joe-biden/

1 hour ago, Splay said:

This a perfect example of how I know you are a dumbfounded dipshit. If what you say was even remotely true then all those Democrats would be residing in the southern states. That would mean lots and lots of voters in rural southern areas are Democrats. Hold the presses! Rural southern districts are Republicans. Imagine that!

And the amusing thing here is the North/South split in the Civil war was largely a Republican/Democrat split with the Republicans in the North and the Democrats in the South.  The thing of it was the South was largely Democrat until the Democratic party started moving away from them in the 90's (thanks in large part to Bill Clinton's shenanigans), with the South being Republican largely a recent thing.  Amusingly, after that much of the South improved as the only Southern state that's still in the shitter is the only blue Southern state remaining - Louisiana.  You need to go learn your history before you start spouting shit.

1 hour ago, Splay said:

You push yourself off as a Republican and conservative. I know this is a lie.

And yet I'm still a registered Republican and (as usual) you're having problems coping with reality.

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10 minutes ago, Almagnus1 said:

It's because it's the district that had Katie Hill https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katie_Hill_(politician) , who was basically a slut that not only cucked her husband by nailing her male staffer, but also had a female lover on the side too.  Rumor has it that revenge porn happened along the way, and on her final address to congress she blamed the patriarchy for her sexual actions... rather than own the mistakes.  Apparently district 25 was so appalled by the actions of a Democrat that, by the way.  For reference of what we're talking about, here's the district that's just due north of LA:

Garcia did not run against Katie Hill. 

he ran against a very heavily endorsed   Christy Smith.

Katie Hill resigning was just a reason for the election...  Christy Smith wasn't getting a naked hair brush from Katie.

doesn't seem to be the obvious connection why a different Democrat lost.

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2 hours ago, Almagnus1 said:

And the amusing thing here is the North/South split in the Civil war was largely a Republican/Democrat split with the Republicans in the North and the Democrats in the South.  The thing of it was the South was largely Democrat until the Democratic party started moving away from them in the 90's (thanks in large part to Bill Clinton's shenanigans), with the South being Republican largely a recent thing.  Amusingly, after that much of the South improved as the only Southern state that's still in the shitter is the only blue Southern state remaining - Louisiana.  You need to go learn your history before you start spouting shit.

The US and its political history existed before your age of reason. Clinton and the 90's LMAO.

2 hours ago, Almagnus1 said:

And yet I'm still a registered Republican and (as usual) you're having problems coping with reality.

I don't see how this matters. In 2001 Trump was registered as a Democrat.

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16 hours ago, Almagnus1 said:

And even more proof that the Democrats (and the news media) have completely lost it, articles like https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/24/us/politics/trump-2020-election-voting-rights.html that start out with really bad fan fiction:

Anyone that believes this drivel needs to go seek counseling as they've become detached from reality.

Well, technically, no.. it's not that far fetched. Trump, his campaign and some of the extreme right wing media are already working on building the narrative that the election will be rife with voter fraud. Just like he claimed in 2016 by the way, to which even his own "special committee" nor the Senate couldn't find a shred of evidence for. With the current COVID-19 situation and states moving to send everyone absentee ballot applications to protect the public, he's throwing a tantrum for the swing states or democratic states (the traditional red states are fine obviously), even throwing in "THEY'RE COMING FOR YOUR GUNS" bullcrap.

The fact that Trump himself is using mail-in voting is obviously not an issue, after all, he's trustworthy right? The entire GOP strategy of closing polling stations in areas with a largely african-american or latino population, or even just democrat leaning voters, will be out the window. It's all fraudulent. Just look at his unhinged twitter ranting about it. It's only ok if it benefits the GOP.

While it might sound far-fetched, Trump not accepting the outcome of the election is VERY realistic. He refused to state he would accept the results during the 2016 debates, spewing his usual rubbish. Then at his own rally....

 

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41 minutes ago, MueR said:

Well, technically, no.. it's not that far fetched. Trump, his campaign and some of the extreme right wing media are already working on building the narrative that the election will be rife with voter fraud. Just like he claimed in 2016 by the way, to which even his own "special committee" nor the Senate couldn't find a shred of evidence for. With the current COVID-19 situation and states moving to send everyone absentee ballot applications to protect the public, he's throwing a tantrum for the swing states or democratic states (the traditional red states are fine obviously), even throwing in "THEY'RE COMING FOR YOUR GUNS" bullcrap.

The fact that Trump himself is using mail-in voting is obviously not an issue, after all, he's trustworthy right? The entire GOP strategy of closing polling stations in areas with a largely african-american or latino population, or even just democrat leaning voters, will be out the window. It's all fraudulent. Just look at his unhinged twitter ranting about it. It's only ok if it benefits the GOP.

While it might sound far-fetched, Trump not accepting the outcome of the election is VERY realistic. He refused to state he would accept the results during the 2016 debates, spewing his usual rubbish. Then at his own rally....

 

And this, ladies and gentlemen, is what happens when a leftist gets detached from reality so they can no longer distinguish between President Trump and Trump the Showman.

Thank you for proving my point 😃

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5 minutes ago, Almagnus1 said:

And this, ladies and gentlemen, is what happens when a leftist gets detached from reality so they can no longer distinguish between President Trump and Trump the Showman.

Thank you for proving my point 😃

Trump has never been a president. He's treated the presidency as one long episode of the apprentice.

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15 hours ago, LasraelLarson said:

Garcia did not run against Katie Hill. 

he ran against a very heavily endorsed   Christy Smith.

Katie Hill resigning was just a reason for the election...  Christy Smith wasn't getting a naked hair brush from Katie.

doesn't seem to be the obvious connection why a different Democrat lost.

Eh... probably missed a few points there, but it's the fact that Katie Hill embarrassed herself, was a Democrat, so the district looked at what the Democrat did and didn't vote for another one.  What makes it interesting is that it's basically the district due north of LA, which is a VERY liberal city right now (that's where Hollywood is FYI).  So it's interesting that there's such a wide margin considering everything that's just south of that district, as that district probably had quite a few of the Hollywood elite endorsing that Democrat with the media bias towards Democrats trying to keep the district blue.

You wouldn't get a 10% delta if the race was close.

1 minute ago, MueR said:

Trump has never been a president. He's treated the presidency as one long episode of the apprentice.

And Wikipedia states otherwise https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump

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Donald John Trump (born June 14, 1946) is the 45th and current president of the United States. Before entering politics, he was a businessman and television personality.

Please let us know once you've ended your delusion and rejoined reality.

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23 minutes ago, Almagnus1 said:

And Wikipedia states otherwise https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump

Please let us know once you've ended your delusion and rejoined reality.

He holds the office, he never acted like a president. Even George W, who I disagreed with on policy matters, was a President.

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