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Calling Bush a Republican in name only--simply because he won't defend the current Racist-in-Chief--is another sign the Trump boot-lickers are grasping at straws.

The irony being that Trump, himself,  has been a Democrat since 2001 and only changed to run against Hillary. I mean if anyone is a RINO...

RIP Republican Party 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Papi said:

Calling Bush a Republican in name only--simply because he won't defend the current Racist-in-Chief--is another sign the Trump boot-lickers are grasping at straws.

The irony being that Trump, himself,  has been a Democrat since 2001 and only changed to run against Hillary. I mean if anyone is a RINO...

RIP Republican Party 

 

 

Almagnus knows this. Its just a desperation troll attempt due to sunken cost.

 

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20 hours ago, Papi said:

Calling Bush a Republican in name only--simply because he won't defend the current Racist-in-Chief--is another sign the Trump boot-lickers are grasping at straws.

The irony being that Trump, himself,  has been a Democrat since 2001 and only changed to run against Hillary. I mean if anyone is a RINO...

RIP Republican Party 

 

 

Indeed. Trump is the ultimate RINO.

21 hours ago, Almagnus1 said:

So Trump doesn't have either Bush's (nor Romney's) backing apparently https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/vote-for-trump-these-republican-leaders-arent-on-the-bandwagon/ar-BB158wRf .

Good, if the RINOs hate him, then that's all the better for everyone.

This is either sad or funny. Trump is the RINO. Seems he will lose hard, as deserved.

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It's time for a constitutional lesson for all the posters here, as this is very relevant to the current ongoings of the US, for relevance, here's the US First Amendment (as seen on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution ), which is:

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Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Notice the bolded part?  That's the part that the riots are violating, or put more simply:

riots =/= protests

The riots should be put down with the full force of the law to prevent further damage to businesses and homes, and all involved in starting the riots should be arrested and prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

What strikes me about the riots is that the number of people killed by them tend to be overwhelmingly minorities ( https://www.foxnews.com/us/deadly-unrest-people-have-died-amid-george-floyd-protests-across-us ) and they are also occurring in minority areas destroying many minority homes and businesses in the process.  It's like the razing of McDonald's and Wendy's didn't stick it to the man, it probably cost somewhere between 50-100 jobs for that area.  I mean, if this was occuring in just a city or two, that would be one thing... but as it's occurring in minority areas in almost all of the cities reads as too coincidental for it to not be someone's intention to intentionally trying to provoke a race war in the US.

And then you have the useful idiots (which refers to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Useful_idiot ) that claim Trump is a racist... yet news reports like https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2019-11-06/trump-s-economy-is-historically-good-for-minorities indicates that he's not.  If Trump is truly a racist, why would he do stuff that helps out the minorities?

Then you have shenanigans like the video Trump released for George Floyd's memorial that was deleted off of Twitter by Twitter ( https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/501270-twitter-removes-trump-campaign-tribute-to-george-floyd-claiming-copyright ) and as the same video is still up on YouTube.

So I ask you, is it more racist to delete a rather positive message that's actually in support of the peaceful protests, or to make a video in support of the peaceful protest fully acknowledging that the Minneapolis PD screwed up with George Floyd?

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Trump's only value system is based on money. If it is coincidental anyone benefits from his value system, then they were on a side that appeals to Trump. Nothing more, nothing less. His value system doesn't exclude racial bias. If a choice is to be made in a situation where Trump can benefit equally from all sides, this is when his prejudice is apparent.

Trump only cares about re-election. He gives no fucks about the path to the destination.

1 hour ago, Almagnus1 said:

riots =/= protests

Ya, nope.

Apples and oranges. Know the difference.

 

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Donald Trump in Maine helping to bring jobs back to Maine fishers that were screwed over by Obama.

 

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They had to destroy the swabs made in the factory he visited because President Dumb Ass didn't wear a mask .....

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So digging into the Black Lives Matter stuff, and their website is https://blacklivesmatter.com/ , specifically with the donations there's a domain change that it does to https://secure.actblue.com/donate/ms_blm_homepage_2019 which strikes me as odd, as a legitimate charity shouldn't do that (I'd expect a donation page to be on their domain, not on aother one), looking more at https://secure.actblue.com/ and it's basically a DNC PAC.  So in other words, BLM isn't a charity, it's a DNC PAC masquerading as one.

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15 hours ago, Almagnus1 said:

It's time for a constitutional lesson for all the posters here, as this is very relevant to the current ongoings of the US, for relevance, here's the US First Amendment (as seen on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution ), which is:

Notice the bolded part?  That's the part that the riots are violating, or put more simply:

riots =/= protests

The riots should be put down with the full force of the law to prevent further damage to businesses and homes, and all involved in starting the riots should be arrested and prosecuted to the full extent of the law.

What strikes me about the riots is that the number of people killed by them tend to be overwhelmingly minorities ( https://www.foxnews.com/us/deadly-unrest-people-have-died-amid-george-floyd-protests-across-us ) and they are also occurring in minority areas destroying many minority homes and businesses in the process.  It's like the razing of McDonald's and Wendy's didn't stick it to the man, it probably cost somewhere between 50-100 jobs for that area.  I mean, if this was occuring in just a city or two, that would be one thing... but as it's occurring in minority areas in almost all of the cities reads as too coincidental for it to not be someone's intention to intentionally trying to provoke a race war in the US.

And then you have the useful idiots (which refers to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Useful_idiot ) that claim Trump is a racist... yet news reports like https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2019-11-06/trump-s-economy-is-historically-good-for-minorities indicates that he's not.  If Trump is truly a racist, why would he do stuff that helps out the minorities?

Then you have shenanigans like the video Trump released for George Floyd's memorial that was deleted off of Twitter by Twitter ( https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/501270-twitter-removes-trump-campaign-tribute-to-george-floyd-claiming-copyright ) and as the same video is still up on YouTube.

So I ask you, is it more racist to delete a rather positive message that's actually in support of the peaceful protests, or to make a video in support of the peaceful protest fully acknowledging that the Minneapolis PD screwed up with George Floyd?

Huh? Are there people here, especially, or anywhere advocating that riots and looting are okay?

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Trump's mouth piece during a press briefing was actually bragging that Trump won 8% of the black vote.  8%

That is how low the bar has been set with this administration and the people who voted for him.

 

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38 minutes ago, FundinStrongarm said:

Huh? Are there people here, especially, or anywhere advocating that riots and looting are okay?

Certainly none here, but that doesn't ever seem to matter.

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4 hours ago, Doro said:

Certainly none here, but that doesn't ever seem to matter.

It is a way of trying to ignore the actual protest by always talking about the few wankers that just want to riot.

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The POTUS...the "leader of the free world"...is actively promoting a conspiracy theory taken straight from a Kremlin propaganda network...that 75 year old Martin Gugino was up to nefarious "antifa" business when 2 policemen pushed him.

Fuck Trump and fuck all who support him.  It has gone beyond ridiculousness now.  

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17 minutes ago, Almagnus1 said:

And then you have Biden....

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Huh? Reduced to a lame Photoshop. Truly descending into pitiful levels.

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There may come a time where the messenger and the message diverge. Perhaps this time has already arrived. When this separation occurs, continued discourse has choices. The obvious ones are, to disengage, or choose incendiary literal devices. Neither of which offer a positive outcome, in the name of continuity par for the usual pro forma. What's left in the absence of consent to continuity? To address the messenger rather than the message. If...   Indeed there is any reason for follow up at all.

Almagnus has no message and hasn't for some recent span of time. Now, if Almagnus had offered up something profound, foundationally irrefutable which might be worthy of continued engaging discourse, I would be astonished. I say, because when Almagnus offers nothing burger farts rather than sticking to the message. These intonations in conviction really amount to flare ups in hemorroids.

If Almagnus has no further message, then thats well and fine. However continued blathering of no message leaves a reader totally uninspired to continue reading. It's like a comedian that can only tell a joke worth a laugh of 1 in ten. Personally I wouldn't pay money to see that. Sounds boring and a waste of time.

Basically Almagnus's ten second efforts amount, to having a sore ass, and screaming they have a sore ass. It isn't comedic on any level and lacks substance to verify there was ever any message.

But...

Seriously.

Should I expect anymore from someone who worships a moron? Perhaps not.

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4 hours ago, Almagnus1 said:

And for those saying Antifa's not a real group... please explain this:

 

Who is saying that? Nobody here.

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And from https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/06/06/george-floyd-brutality-systemic-racism-questions-go-unanswered-honesty-opinion/3146773001/

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"Minneapolis, Minn. has been under Democratic control since 1978. Chicago has been under Democratic control for 89 years; its present mayor is a black woman. Philadelphia has had Democratic mayors for 68 years; three of its last five mayors have been black men. Six of the last seven Atlanta, Ga., mayoral administrations were led by black Democratic mayors, and the present mayor is a black woman.

"A city runs its police department and other services; therefore, if there is so much 'systemic racism' in these organizations, why hasn't it been corrected over so many years under Democratic leaders?

That's a very good question.  Given how long these cities have been governed by the Democrats, one would have thought that they'd be shining cities on the hill, true paragons of tolerance and equality....

Yet that's not the reality....

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8 hours ago, Almagnus1 said:

And from https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/06/06/george-floyd-brutality-systemic-racism-questions-go-unanswered-honesty-opinion/3146773001/

That's a very good question.  Given how long these cities have been governed by the Democrats, one would have thought that they'd be shining cities on the hill, true paragons of tolerance and equality....

Yet that's not the reality....

Here I agree. Democrats have no high ground on this issue.

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https://abcnews.go.com/US/intelligence-bulletin-warning-protest-related-violence-makes-mention/story?id=71166595&cid=social_twitter_abcn

"Despite repeated Trump administration assertions that the antifa movement has hijacked the ongoing protests around the country sparked by the police killing of George Floyd, a new federal intelligence bulletin points to white supremacists and other would-be domestic terrorists as the main problem lurking behind potentially lethal violence..."

 

 

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1 hour ago, Papi said:

other would-be domestic terrorists

Which is media speak for "Antifa" because Antifa is a far left militant anarco-communist group and the MSM won't call out their own on their stupidity so they will continue to gaslight people... like they have been doing for years.

And don't even try to deny it about what's going on in Seattle because I'm getting data directly from friends in the area.  Put down the browser, go read https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antifa_(United_States), and educate yourself on what's actually going on.

 

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50 minutes ago, Almagnus1 said:

Which is media speak for "Antifa" because Antifa is a far left militant anarco-communist group and the MSM won't call out their own on their stupidity so they will continue to gaslight people... like they have been doing for years.

And don't even try to deny it about what's going on in Seattle because I'm getting data directly from friends in the area.  Put down the browser, go read https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antifa_(United_States), and educate yourself on what's actually going on.

 

You really discredit yourself when you point out polarization from media sources. Then list a fringe link from apparent gas lighting idiots.

Your friends must be viewing this with strange glasses, because I know of first hand accounts that dispute your view and the twitter mania you linked. Anything to get sensationalized attention. The twitter nut makes it sound like it is an "Escape from LA" world when the facts are far different.

As to what is actually going on. I see this as a counterbalance to conservative extremism. I don't condone or identify with either. Its just a dynamic that is expected in a free country where freedom remains unhindered. Had all those gun toting idiots not went to Charlottesville VA, then they wouldn't have to have fear of the pendulum swinging back past center. Action and reaction plain and simple.

19 minutes ago, cossieuk said:

The Trump campaign doesnt like that he is really far behind in the polls, the want CNN to retract and apologise for a poll they published this week showing Biden with a 14 point lead.

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/06/10/politics/trump-campaign-cnn-poll/index.html

That's some funny shit. Trump gets angry, serving cease and desist orders. The king has no throne. I can't say I will shed a tear.

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