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Trump's poor diet and failing health are catching up with him more and more clearly now.

Struggling to raise a glass to his mouth, he's also been seen to need escorting down stairs (which he takes very slowly), and having random spasms during moments where he's supposed to stand still.

This was a guy who wrote his own health eval and lied to say he was the "healthiest individual ever elected to the presidency" and had "extraordinary strength". It's hard enough seeing your own body betray you and being unable to do anything about it, but imagine how hard it is for a man whose ego can't take reality. No amount of coke can help ignore it then.

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Back early in this thread Almagnus wanted us to take a test so he could adjust his responses. I am no fool. A person of conviction doesn't amend their opinions based on what others say. Its been more

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On 6/12/2020 at 8:36 PM, Splay said:

For practical purposes (for the most part) it is a Democracy, but since you want to be a stickler, the US is a Constitutional Federal Republic.

...and, as a Constitutionally Limited Republic, the Electoral College is working as designed. Limits the power with States with high population to control those with low population. It forces the President to appeal to a broad swath of the country.

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1 hour ago, FundinStrongarm said:

...and, as a Constitutionally Limited Republic, the Electoral College is working as designed. Limits the power with States with high population to control those with low population. It forces the President to appeal to a broad swath of the country.

But you only have to focus on the swing states.  There are many states that rarely change who they vote for.  This gives the swing states a lot of control over who wins.

Including the 2000 election only 13 states have changed who they vote for.  

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3 hours ago, FundinStrongarm said:

...and, as a Constitutionally Limited Republic, the Electoral College is working as designed. Limits the power with States with high population to control those with low population. It forces the President to appeal to a broad swath of the country.

All this does is reveal the inequality in a nation, which is founded where all men are created equal.

Does this mean Trump will be expected in California campaigning? Will Biden be found in Oklahoma looking for votes?

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5 minutes ago, Splay said:

All this does is reveal the inequality in a nation, which is founded where all men are created equal.

Does this mean Trump will be expected in California campaigning? Will Biden be found in Oklahoma looking for votes?

In a more perfect world, the answer to both your questions would be "yes."  

A candidate should appeal to the majority of voters and not just 1/4 of them (I say 1/4 because usually nearly half the population doesn't even vote to begin with)

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56 minutes ago, Splay said:

All this does is reveal the inequality in a nation, which is founded where all men are created equal.

Does this mean Trump will be expected in California campaigning? Will Biden be found in Oklahoma looking for votes?

Hopefully, yes. But better to at least try to appeal to a broad section of America than just 6 populous States or 8 populous cities. Look up why the Electoral College came to be. There wouldn't be a nation without it.

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I'm fully aware of the origin and the reasoning behind it. The reality is if Biden were to win 11 states, he'd  never have to set foot in a Republican stronghold. Less than 1/3 of the 50 states. Three of those 11 are currently swing states looking rather favorable to a Democrat victory. That is hardly representative of voters.

The absence of the Electoral College would not have hindered the founding of the US.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Electoral_College

The suitability of the Electoral College system is a matter of ongoing debate. Supporters of the Electoral College argue that it is fundamental to American federalism, that it requires candidates to appeal to voters outside large cities, increases the political influence of small states, preserves the two-party system, and makes the electoral outcome appear more legitimate than that of a nationwide popular vote.

Opponents of the Electoral College argue that it can result in different candidates winning the popular and electoral vote (which occurred in two of the five presidential elections from 2000 to 2016); that it causes candidates to focus their campaigning disproportionately in a few "swing states"; and that its allocation of Electoral College votes gives citizens in less populated states (e.g., Wyoming) as much as four times the voting power as those in more populous states (e.g., California).

 

As time passes these disparities will widen causing further, future elections, to have an imbalance between popular and electoral votes.

 

 

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5 hours ago, FundinStrongarm said:

But better to at least try to appeal to a broad section of America than just 6 populous States or 8 populous cities.

As an aside, this is exactly why Labour lost a lot of stronghold seats in the UK in the last election and gave the Tories their biggest win in decades. They kept trying to appeal to metropolitan areas only and ignored the northern working class vote they assumed was guaranteed, and lost them for it. Democrats would do well to treat all states as prizes in this one.

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oh look, another incident where Fox and Friends tried to blame it on the "extreme leftist organization antifa", turns out to be...well, take a guess:

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-06-16/suspects-charged-killing-santa-cruz-cop-and-oakland-federal-officer

"right-wing “Boogaloo” movement that believes a second American Civil War is coming soon"

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Bolton the war-hawk is back in the picture. Trump's team have rushed to block him releasing his book, which contains claims such as:

  • Trump asking China's leader for help with the 2020 elections, possibly by begging China to buy more agricultural produce from the US
  • Even Trump's most trusted advisors talk shit behind his back about how inept he is
  • There's apparently a lot worse that Trump has done with other leaders than he was impeached for
  • By the time Bolton left, Trump was just as clueless as he was when he started (which is likely still the case, the man's an idiot)
  • Putin was regularly able to use even blatant manipulation tactics to get Trump to agree with him

The funny thing is that they're blocking it claiming it's got too much sensitive information that could risk national security, which suggests it's pretty fucking accurate. I guess someone like Bolton is just another RINO looking to undermine a guy who has previously registered as a Democrat, a Reform Party member, and independent but who is definitely a real Republican.

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8 hours ago, Doro said:

Bolton the war-hawk is back in the picture. Trump's team have rushed to block him releasing his book, which contains claims such as:

  • Trump asking China's leader for help with the 2020 elections, possibly by begging China to buy more agricultural produce from the US
  • Even Trump's most trusted advisors talk shit behind his back about how inept he is
  • There's apparently a lot worse that Trump has done with other leaders than he was impeached for
  • By the time Bolton left, Trump was just as clueless as he was when he started (which is likely still the case, the man's an idiot)
  • Putin was regularly able to use even blatant manipulation tactics to get Trump to agree with him

The funny thing is that they're blocking it claiming it's got too much sensitive information that could risk national security, which suggests it's pretty fucking accurate. I guess someone like Bolton is just another RINO looking to undermine a guy who has previously registered as a Democrat, a Reform Party member, and independent but who is definitely a real Republican.

They are also arguing that the book is lies, so why try and stop it

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I read somewhere in the last two days, Trump wants the revenue from the publishing contract to be awarded to him as some kind of recompense for the dirty deeds done to besmirch Trump's golden image. Might have been about his niece's book, or both hers and Bolton's book.

The media already have copies, so blocking warehouse distribution doesn't matter. I highly doubt Trump can stop the sales. I can see where Trump may not want the 2020 election win, because there will be another Impeachment and with Bolton's book also a possible Democrat Senate. Conviction is inevitable.

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My hope, once Trump loses the election, is that the Democrats put him on /ignore (that goes double for the media).  Regardless of what he says--and make no mistake, he will not go quietly into the night--just ignore him.  Don't try and indict him, just...put it behind them and move on.  The country needs a reset.

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I called this last week, but knew of its reality than a year ago. The pendulum swings as the Corruptor and Chief keeps winding up the clock.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/intel-report-warns-that-far-right-extremists-may-target-washington-dc/ar-BB15Jd2U

The assessment, dated June 15 and obtained by Politico, reported that “recent events indicate violent adherents of the boogaloo ideology likely reside in the National Capital Region, and others may be willing to travel far distances to incite civil unrest or conduct violence encouraged in online forums associated with the movement.”

“The politicization of national security threats is retrograde and hurting our response,” Levin said. “We’re not seeing this level of violence now from the left because these extremist movements respond to inertia from the mainstream. The hard right hangs on Trump’s every word. And even in ambiguity, they see support.”

All through the article describes recent moments throughout the US where Right-Wing extreme ideologist commit to actions violating the law. Trump needs to go and Biden is a poor replacement but given the outcomes is the better choice.

Perhaps I'm wrong, but I see a significant chance Tulsa will burn tomorrow night. Knowing it only takes one nutcase wielding a gun to set the blaze.

 

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2 hours ago, Splay said:

... violent adherents of the boogaloo ideology...

As serious and abhorrent as they obviously are, there's still a giggling little gremlin in me that can't read "boogaloo" with a straight face.

To be honest, this whole situation has this undertone of absurdity running through it. An ex-criminal and ongoing substance abuser is murdered in cold blood by police in the US, and suddenly riots happen over multiple nations because of the recurring myth that black people are being slaughtered by police (more white people are killed by police due to population sizes, but also are more likely to be killed by police during encounters than black people are). Never mind that black people kill each other in far greater numbers than police do, no there's no "Black Lives Matter" presence then. Or that multiple African nations are struggling with serious poverty, violence, and even ongoing literal slavery (apparently only historical black slavery counts), again nobody thinks "Black Lives Matter" about that. No, it's only very specific, very shallow, misunderstood, mostly fictional injustices in the West that need to be addressed, led by proponents of the victim identity dogma. And the media continues to spread that narrative as though it's completely real.

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The Batman's Joker let all the crazies out of the asylum. Chords of Chaos accompanied by tribal chants, where the lunatics dance to the beat. A festival of madness where sacrifices are offered to their gods.

Where have I seen that before...

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On 6/19/2020 at 7:51 PM, Splay said:

Perhaps I'm wrong, but I see a significant chance Tulsa will burn tomorrow night. Knowing it only takes one nutcase wielding a gun to set the blaze.

Trump's Tulsa rally was about as nourishing as ordering a nothing burger at a drive thru. Seems his supporters can't survive on such a low calorie diet. Instead they stayed home. I guess that's a good thing rather than seeing another city in flames.

I listened to it up until the rambling idiot gave his rational about virus testing.

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On 6/21/2020 at 5:18 AM, Splay said:

Instead they stayed home.

Well, not really, they kinda got trolled by some 50-ish year old grandmother (must be america at that age...) who got her tiktok followers to reserve tickets and it kind of snowballed...

A good thing for public health I suppose.

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Trump's really going for his greatest hits now, with some added projection/hypocrisy at Biden. Likes bringing up "kung flu", pointing at everything else as a problem, calling Biden corrupt and sleepy (the blackest pot to the kettle), keeping up the vague "America first" and "us vs them" rhetoric he was doing in the last election (but getting less of a reaction), all to distract from his failures as possibly the worst president of all time (probably tied with Bush, since Trump at least hasn't started a disastrous military campaign like he did... yet).

Not only has he failed to uphold any of his previous campaign promises, he's failed to deal with problems that arose because of his actions/inactions during his term. He's not drained the swamp, he added to it with nepotism. Half of his administration are made up of revolving door positions, because the people he picks can't stand him or his incompetence. All he's done is waved shiny tinfoil about on Twitter to make media outlets money and his followers clap and cheer like the brainlets they are. Good use of four years, Teeny Trump.

I half want him to win again, but this time to laugh at the mental gymnastics of his cheerleaders every time he fucks up, instead of drinking in the delicious lib tears from before (they get samey after a while).

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Yeah, it's difficult what to hope for; Another Trump win will be sort of funny because of the rage of the losers; But I fear that will have a little more negative impact on me then Biden winning; Though I think the influence of the USA on the world/ Europe is overrated; It's because everyone says they have so much influence...

But a landslide win of Biden would also be interesting to see, because of the reaction of Trump and his fans;

And who-ever wins, I won't be suprised if he can't complete the full term because of serious health issues. So the VP is more important then ever.

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When Millions of Americans lose their jobs all in the same month, that's the time a President needs to step up. Step up with a plan to get those same Americans back to work. Presidents have in the past, yet some how Trump can't put this piece to the puzzle. I've mentioned unemployment numbers more than once, but I know that isn't the totality of the picture. Its just a leading indicator of direction. This article below gives more insight to that picture.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/nearly-half-of-american-adults-are-now-unemployed/ar-BB167gf0?li=BBnbfcN

The employment-population ratio — the number of employed people as a percentage of the U.S. adult population — plunged to 52.8% in May, meaning 47.2% of Americans are jobless, according to Bureau of Labor Statistics.

"To get the employment-to-population ratio back to where it was at its peak in 2000 we need to create 30 million jobs," Torsten Slok, Deutsche Bank's chief economist

 

As the President of ignorance and denial, Trump still only cares about feeding his ego and a future prospect of a second term is what leads his impulsive decisions. There is no way Trump will make a second term and for him it is way too late to change course causing any effective change to the lives of average Americans. Many of the jobs lost at the beginning of 2020 will not return. Not today. Not tomorrow, or even in a year. They are gone, period. That makes the unemployed number even a more daunting task for recovery leading to jobs. Trump never got it. Instead of dealing with Covid 19 in a sensible way, he just wanted to act like it was fake news. The sad part in this is those dumb enough to place Trump's priorities to align with their own. Governors who refused to address the virus are now the worst places in America to be right now. To think all this could have been ended over a month ago and jobs on the recovery following the populations recovery from the pandemic. But no! We gots to be stupid.

The people where I live paid attention and were directed by common sense. As a result, there are less than 20 confirmed cases in the county, and zero deaths. This wasn't because they paid attention to Trump. In fact he was widely ignored and the irony in that is, I live in a rural setting which is predominantly conservative and Republican. I guess they aren't Trump kinda dumb.

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That moment when those in your own political party hate you more than your political opponent.

Biden may be the first to win the Presidency without leaving his home throughout the whole campaign.

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