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Actually, he is - some smallish ISP in Canada. Has been ever since I first met him when he was a World Overseer for Asheron's Call (before Turbine shut down their volunteer program). He also wrote one of those Prima guides for AC, and like me, he's been in essentially every NDA program Turbine's had over the past 12 years. I don't know whether he's still in one, and wouldn't say if I did.

But hey, if you all feel good about hurling insults at him over here where it's "safe" for such dreck... I'm not going to try and stop you. I do feel that my stay here is getting over-long, however. Later, all. May you all find games (and game companies) that you enjoy more. I plan to.

Khafar

Thanks for interacting with us a while, and I appreciated having your viewpoint as a reasonable counter-balance. I hope to see you back here again.

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I've removed some posts from this topic. They were going wildly off-topic. Please, stop picking on users on the Turbine forums.

MueR,

Do you know Freundlich (sp)? well enough to get him to post definitively what he had access to and what he *could* have done with it had he chosen to?

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Someone needs to get through to Turbine and let them know that ...

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Heh, heh. It wouldn't hurt for a few others in that thread to wise up themselves.

Yeah, I have a feeling that thread isn't long for this world now (I've been trying to sprinkle a little common sense through it myself -- I even quoted the Sap -- Hee, Hee). But, I don't think just closing it without further comment is going to ease their pain.

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Yep, there are some that are trying their level best to get it inflamed enough for Sapience to be able to close it.

I notice there are a lot of posters on the side that wants more answers that are exercising restraint very admirably.

I just hope that it stays away from a flame war for long enough to get us all the answers we feel it's our right to demand.

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Yep, there are some that are trying their level best to get it inflamed enough for Sapience to be able to close it.

I notice there are a lot of posters on the side that wants more answers that are exercising restraint very admirably.

I just hope that it stays away from a flame war for long enough to get us all the answers we feel it's our right to demand.

Yes, it certainly is our right to demand it. There is money involved, if nothing else, and banks need to be notified as soon as possible. There are also laws that must be complied with. If they are holding back information, it is going to go badly for them.

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Sometimes when posting in that thread I feel like I'm trying to put a square peg in a round hole. It's just pointless trying to explain repeatedly that saying A is not the same as saying Z, so I'm not going to bother. If people want to assume that turbine's vague (imho) comments mean everything is fine and dandy and nothing was leaked, more power to them. Fortunately I was taught to not be afraid to question things that are told to me, especially when those things leave so many questions unanswered.

How about a virtual toast to being the independent and free thinkers that we are?

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Yes, it certainly is our right to demand it. There is money involved, if nothing else, and banks need to be notified as soon as possible. There are also laws that must be complied with. If they are holding back information, it is going to go badly for them.

At this point the best course of action is to send an actual letter to Turbine asking for answers. You may or may not get a response, but if the Attorney General does investigate they apparently start with the complaints sent to the company.

I am unsure of the legalities surrounding the security breach, as far as I can tell the notification laws vary by state and those outside the US are unenforceable unless Turbine has offices in the relevant country.

That said, my report to the AG is based on the Consumer Protection Act which protects against unfair and deceptive acts and practices. Since the FAQ has been released worded the way it has been and there are clearly posters to that thread who believe the question has been answered, then it would seem Turbine is either;

1) trying to deceive players into thinking no information was compromised OR

2) No information was compromised and they are just handling the situation really badly

I am guessing #1 but the answer will be unknown unless the AG does investigate. The more players put complaints in writing the better the chance the AG will investigate and ensure everything is 'above board'.

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At this point the best course of action is to send an actual letter to Turbine asking for answers. You may or may not get a response, but if the Attorney General does investigate they apparently start with the complaints sent to the company.

Thanks for this idea. I know what I'll be doing tonight. :)

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I am guessing #1 but the answer will be unknown unless the AG does investigate. The more players put complaints in writing the better the chance the AG will investigate and ensure everything is 'above board'.

Next week, I'm having a totally unrelated office call with our AG and I fully intend to mention this incident and that I filed an official complaint with his office. On-line Identity Theft is one of his campaign themes, so I know it will pique his interest. Whether or not he thinks it rises to a level that he should do anything, is another question altogether.

I'll see...

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Next week, I'm having a totally unrelated office call with our AG and I fully intend to mention this incident and that I filed an official complaint with his office. On-line Identity Theft is one of his campaign themes, so I know it will pique his interest. Whether or not he thinks it rises to a level that he should do anything, is another question altogether.

I'll see...

You say *his* so not sure which AG you are referring to. The AG in Massachusetts is a *she* and is the one I am sending my report to as Turbine are in Massachusetts which I think is the relevant part.

Not trying to nitpick, just wanted to be clear so we aren't getting our wires crossed :)

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You say *his* so not sure which AG you are referring to. The AG in Massachusetts is a *she* and is the one I am sending my report to as Turbine are in Massachusetts which I think is the relevant part.

Not trying to nitpick, just wanted to be clear so we aren't getting our wires crossed :)

I don't know the Massachusetts AG. :) No, I filed my complaint with my local AG. Legally, since Turbine's "product" is sold where I live, our AG has jurisdiction to investigate should he decide to do so.

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WB is a worldwide company. They own 100% of Turbine. You can sue them all you want in the UK, or try to get local prosecutors to go after them.

Of course the Massachusetts AG is a much better first target. If nothing else than because we want all our complaints to arrive in the same office.

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