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Despite, by now age old and repeated, promises of SSG and its precessor that the legendary grind is under consideration, SSG, in its infinite wisdom, has decided to make the legendary grind even worse:

https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthread.php?685661-I-don-t-know-about-the-new-scroll-of-empowerment-grind

I therefore expect that SSG will announce in the near future that it will start selling expensive endgame weapons in the store.

Some players will be very relieved to be able to bypass the excessive grind. Others will be maintain that 'the grind is doable'.

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I'm honestly surprised Gondor content, which is, what, 6-7 years old now? - still gave endgame scrolls for that long. While they are soloable, I never really collected them from Gondor. I always use Motes/Embers to trade for max 74 scrolls then relied on Box runs, Marks/Medallions and instance drops for the last 9 tiers.

Not sure the point of the Dol Amroth scrolls though. They max out at tier 44, which is pretty much the default tier when you imbue an LI. That part of the changes is dumb for sure.

So, the grind remains unchanged for me. Maybe not for others.

But this doesn't lead to endgame weapons necessarily at all. So that part is typical hyperbole, imo.

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What keeps coming up in the Forum threads is that the grind may be very daunting for new players.

When it's daunting a trip to the store may be more easily made.

https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthread.php?685689-The-new-Imbued-LI-grind-plan/page4

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Used to be the new guy in the kin who wanted to come raiding with us would get some instance runs, some pointers to group play and some urging to joins us for a slayer deed night to get best virtues sorted out for the following week's raid. Maybe target a skirm or instance for a specific drop they could use or craft them some better gear. Some positive action got them rewarded with a slot and you'd hope they wouldn't turn out to be a loadstone and require passing over with the rezzes for a successful boss kill.

Roll it on a smidgen: You've got seven months worth of ILI grind there m8. How many trait points? Good grief go look at the wiki you're missing 20. Any one up to take him through 200 BB points? Yeah didn't think so... Hmm lots of open essence slots there m8, you not got some crafter on your account? How about we talk again in 6 months... He comes back the next week having spent a fortune on the dubious store catch ups but doesn't quite get he's failed to prove his worth to the group. Maybe that's how it works today, I'm out of all that now. If the guy had been a RL friend you could have used many of your resources to hurry the advances along but all of a sudden those resources are no longer so easily obtainable and so you'd have to ask yourself how much of a friend are they really?

It doesn't matter to SSG/DayBreak/Whoever that a player spending tons of cash doesn't know how to play the (end)game. Only thing that matters to them is that you spend muchos $$ in the store.

 

This is an interesting question:

https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthread.php?685657-What-is-the-total-cost-to-level-a-Legendary-Weapon

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I was wondering how much it would cost in LOTRO POINTS to level an LI or weapon now to max?

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About 2500 MC for the legacies, which I believe comes out to 20,000 LP. 50 MC for each legacy replacement, so potential 350 more, and another 330 to skip crystals which is another 6,000 LP for the MC at 2,000 LP per 250 MC.

So call it 26,000 LP per LI which you need AT LEAST 2. Best value being $200 for 23000 LP and another $35 to get 3150.

So for 2 LIs it is around 52,000 LP = around US$470.

You are probably right, FundinStrongarm, complete weapons may not come to the game. This 'breaking up off the cost' in bite size pieces is what masks the real cost and is the 'perfect' way to monetize. And that's already fully functioning.

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I find the situation very sad and often irritating. Especially when I read their forums. Repeatedly week after week the same shit show where SSG just needs to piss off players to keep some silly status quo. That being SSG can't let any player exist without fucking with their mind's creating crisis after crisis. How some analytical junky worked that out as a positive is mind boggling. The sad part is that there are still diehard morons who suck up all that negativity SSG spews out and convince themselves somehow it taste like caviar. Their addictions are real and SSG loves it.

Though I don't play this game anymore (I log on every few weeks only for fellowship chat) it could work out to my benefit having the fucktards at SSG continue on their full monetization path. Doing so only makes my accounts worth more for selling. A tally of one character based on the figure above makes it value by SSG standards worth $1,800 plus for only its ILI's. Obviously only a dumbass would pay that price, but I estimate it's a far better amount than the average value of less than $100 for a non lifer account being sold at various places for more than the last 8 years.

I'd really like to see the new ownership remove everyone from SSG who is connected with LotRO. A brand new team couldn't fuck this game up anymore and I might have a shred of solace knowing new people actually might give one fuck about their quality and performance.

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New patch this Monday raises the max tier for (almost?) all the barter scrolls, plus adds more for certain weekly quests. The number of non-tiered scrolls will be less but overall sources increase and are easily attainable, though bound to account.

I'm fine with 6 year old level 100 content from over 3 expansions ago not giving endgame scrolls. YMMV.

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On 1/24/2021 at 5:24 PM, Tarantula said:

Despite, by now age old and repeated, promises of SSG and its precessor that the legendary grind is under consideration, SSG, in its infinite wisdom, has decided to make the legendary grind even worse:

https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthread.php?685661-I-don-t-know-about-the-new-scroll-of-empowerment-grind

I therefore expect that SSG will announce in the near future that it will start selling expensive endgame weapons in the store.

Some players will be very relieved to be able to bypass the excessive grind. Others will be maintain that 'the grind is doable'.

Well, they'd probably just have this bundle make a return...

https://www.lotro.com/en/game/articles/lord-rings-online-black-friday-deals

New Item: Catch-up Boxes for your Legendary Items!

In this box you will find the following:

  • 100 Single-tier increase Catch-up Scrolls of Empowerment*
  • 10 Five-tier increase Catch-up Scrolls of Empowerment
  • 5 Ten-tier increase Catch-up Scrolls of Empowerment
  • 25 Catch-up Star-lit Crystals*
  • 10 Elegant Heritage Runes of Legend. These will grant item experience points.*
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12 hours ago, Elrantiri said:

Well, they'd probably just have this bundle make a return...

https://www.lotro.com/en/game/articles/lord-rings-online-black-friday-deals

New Item: Catch-up Boxes for your Legendary Items!

In this box you will find the following:

  • 100 Single-tier increase Catch-up Scrolls of Empowerment*
  • 10 Five-tier increase Catch-up Scrolls of Empowerment
  • 5 Ten-tier increase Catch-up Scrolls of Empowerment
  • 25 Catch-up Star-lit Crystals*
  • 10 Elegant Heritage Runes of Legend. These will grant item experience points.*

Yes, this is exactly the kind of thing that would be attractive for people with money and no time to gather. I'm surprised they don't sell it more often. My apologies if this is what was meant.

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On 1/30/2021 at 11:02 AM, Elrantiri said:

Well, they'd probably just have this bundle make a return...

https://www.lotro.com/en/game/articles/lord-rings-online-black-friday-deals

New Item: Catch-up Boxes for your Legendary Items!

In this box you will find the following:

  • 100 Single-tier increase Catch-up Scrolls of Empowerment*
  • 10 Five-tier increase Catch-up Scrolls of Empowerment
  • 5 Ten-tier increase Catch-up Scrolls of Empowerment
  • 25 Catch-up Star-lit Crystals*
  • 10 Elegant Heritage Runes of Legend. These will grant item experience points.*

This cost 4995 LP back then. Someone on the OF did the math and figured it would cost 52,000 LP to max 2 weapons.

This Catch-up Box would be a drop in a bucket.

On 1/30/2021 at 11:37 PM, FundinStrongarm said:

Yes, this is exactly the kind of thing that would be attractive for people with money and no time to gather. I'm surprised they don't sell it more often. My apologies if this is what was meant.

No, I expected max weapons - and I already wrote earlier in this thread that, seeing the expense, this will not happen. SSG will want to mask the costs by offering upgrades in bits and pieces, for mithril and with offers such as just linked.

What I have found with SSG is that they started out with better offers (example: tripple bonus LP) and then don't have that return to the store.

I think it's the same with this offer.

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There is a Valar boost you can buy that levels you to 120 and gives you 2 LI tokens that can be exchanged for 2 7-legacy LIs. Those have close to max main DPS/healing legacies, though the other legacies are about 30 tiers below current max. That's about as close as there is.

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7 hours ago, Tarantula said:

Makes one wonder whether players approaching 120 may just buy this Valar for the weapons.

Besides the LIs, you also get a number of trait points that take you over the max you can spend. Plus some virtue tomes, allowing you to get cap in half a dozen or so. The virtue tomes are account bound so can top up other toons as well. It not just for the weapons. The Valar accelerators were 75% off in November (Black Friday?) sometime and I got a couple for levels 105 and 86 toons.

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You can just buy 3 120 valars @$60 a piece. Each comes with a bunch of Virtue tokens. Pay enough and you never have to do another virtue deed or weekly for whatever future the game has for them. In pandering to a load of inept people who were clueless on how to go about building a functioning ILI they changed the max usage to 120 from 119. Because filling that request meant more sales. Now you can use your $$$ to circumvent the entire virtue grift that was to be the ILI grift replacement. 

However SSGRedPanda will have sold his grandma for profit some time ago if you're interest had been piqued.

They are deleting a load of posts and slapping the usual bulling infractions on other posts to stifle things as it is. Pandering to the base is all they have and they are so deep in the shit trying to hide their utter incompetence from everyone, not least their bosses, old and new as well as themselves.

RedPanda selling keel planking from the ship. Cord on his power trip denying the rising water up the mast is "sinking".  But there's been no one at the helm for years and no one to step up and be captain, all hiding behind 3rd mate/rate Cord, incapacitated due to lack of sea legs but throwing dissenters overboard, the crew in chains.

Kind of sums up the SSG politic currently.

 

 

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And this is why I quit as an alpha tester after Mirkwood.... this was looming on the horizon. And the fact that "elite raiding guild" fucked up the raids I had tested and balanced for months.

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